Bart_M_J

Q: Fan goes crazy after El Capitan clean install

Hi all,

 

A couple of days ago I formatted my drive and clean installed El Capitan. I'm starting to regret this... The fan just keeps turning on very high revs - e.g. this very moment it's 6500 r/min and it doesn't slow down. The thing is that this almost never happened on Yosemite - only when playing computer games with somewhat better graphics. I've installed Macs Fan Control and could set the fan speed to some manual level but I'm afraid it's going to hurt my computer.

 

Does anyone know any fixes to this issue? Any way to adjust the fan speed? [p.s. the battery also supports the system for much shorter time under El Capitan than it used to do under Yosemite]. What the **** Apple???

 

....or should I just go back to Yosemite...?

MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2013), OS X El Capitan (10.11.3)

Posted on Feb 17, 2016 3:24 PM

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  • by Fabiodik,

    Fabiodik Fabiodik Mar 5, 2016 2:31 AM in response to Bart_M_J
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    Mar 5, 2016 2:31 AM in response to Bart_M_J

    Hi All,

     

    I did that same that Bart did.. clean install, Macbook air late 2010, and have fan going crazy... removed google (even if it was inactive in the system preferences) but no improvements. Fan goes, never stops and I don't have many things loaded.. I wonder if Office 2016 could have caused this or 10.11.3??

     

    This is my Etrecheck.. not happy about the 15 processed killed due to insufficient RAM.. I can't upload RAM on my mac..

     

    Any idea?

    Thanks!!!

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.9.9 (260)

    Report generated 2016-03-05 14:16:29

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 4:45

    Performance: Good

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Other problem

    Description:

    and fan is very high speed..

     

    Hardware Information:

        MacBook Air (13-inch, Late 2010)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        MacBook Air - model: MacBookAir3,2

        1 2,13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        4 GB RAM Not upgradeable

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n

        Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 863

     

    Video Information:

        NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB

            Color LCD 1440 x 900

     

    System Software:

        OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 (15D21) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information:

        APPLE SSD TS256C disk0 : (251 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

            EFI (disk0s1) /Volumes/firmwaresyncd.zbaqVR : 210 MB (190 MB free)

            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 250.14 GB (128.76 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

    USB Information:

        Apple Card Reader 128,71 GB

            EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Transcend (disk1s2) /Volumes/Transcend : 128.37 GB (75.10 GB free)

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

    Gatekeeper:

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions:

            /Applications/VMware Fusion.app

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmci (90.6.3 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmioplug.14.1.3 (14.1.3 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmnet (0210.30.67 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmx86 (0210.30.67 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vsockets (90.6.0 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

     

    System Launch Agents:

        [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    155 Apple tasks

        [running]    59 Apple tasks

        [killed]    15 Apple tasks

        15 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

     

    System Launch Daemons:

        [not loaded]    45 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    150 Apple tasks

        [running]    78 Apple tasks

        [killed]    14 Apple tasks

        14 processes killed due to insufficient RAM

     

    Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-03-03) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

     

    Launch Daemons:

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-01-29) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-03-03) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.helpertool.plist (2016-02-21) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (2016-01-09) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (2016-02-01) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.transcend.TSRecoverHandlerHelp.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [running]    com.transcend.TSSleepHandlerHelp.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.transcend.TSTRIMHandlerHelp.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

     

    User Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    com.citrixonline.GoToMeeting.G2MUpdate.plist (2016-03-02) [Support]

     

    User Login Items:

        iTunesHelper    Application  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

        Dropbox    Application  (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

     

    Other Apps:

        [running]    2BUA8C4S2C.com.agilebits.onepassword4-helper

        [loaded]    com.fiplab.MemoryCleanHelper

        [running]    com.fiplab.memoryclean.136032

        [running]    com.getdropbox.dropbox.96352

        [loaded]    391 Apple tasks

        [running]    158 Apple tasks

        [killed]    30 Apple tasks

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

        FlashPlayer-10.6: 20.0.0.306 - SDK 10.6 (2016-02-25) [Support]

        QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-02-19)

        Flash Player: 20.0.0.306 - SDK 10.6 (2016-02-25) [Support]

        Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-02-19)

        o1dbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 - SDK 10.8 (2016-02-22) [Support]

        googletalkbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 - SDK 10.8 (2015-12-11) [Support]

        MeetingJoinPlugin: Unknown - SDK 10.2 (2016-03-02) [Support]

     

    User internet Plug-ins:

        CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: 1.0.105 (2013-04-26) [Support]

     

    Safari Extensions:

        1Password (2016-02-28)

        Evernote Web Clipper (2016-02-21)

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

        Flash Player (2016-01-29) [Support]

     

    Time Machine:

        Skip System Files: NO

        Mobile backups: OFF

        Auto backup: YES

        Volumes being backed up:

            Macintosh HD: Disk size: 250.14 GB Disk used: 121.38 GB

        Destinations:

            3TB WDC [Local]

            Total size: 3.00 TB

            Total number of backups: 6

            Oldest backup: 20/02/16 20:02

            Last backup: 03/03/16 18:42

            Size of backup disk: Excellent

                Backup size 3.00 TB > (Disk size 250.14 GB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

            28%    softwareupdated

            17%    kernel_task

            10%    backupd

            10%    mdworker(14)

            10%    opendirectoryd

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

        461 MB    kernel_task

        328 MB    mdworker(14)

        266 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

        143 MB    softwareupdated

        94 MB    Dropbox

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

        20 MB    Free RAM

        4.23 GB    Used RAM (545 MB Cached)

        80 MB    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information:

        Mar 5, 2016, 02:06:23 PM    Self test - passed

        Mar 3, 2016, 04:51:14 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/com.apple.ICPPhotoStreamLibraryService_2016-03- 03-165114_[redacted].crash

            /System/Library/CoreServices/cloudphotosd.app/Contents/XPCServices/com.apple.IC PPhotoStreamLibraryService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.ICPPhotoStreamLibrarySer vice

        Mar 3, 2016, 04:51:11 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/loginwindow_2016-03-03-165111_[redacted].crash

            /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow

        Mar 3, 2016, 03:39:06 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Finder_2016-03-03-153906_[redacted].crash

            com.apple.finder - /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder

  • by Fabiodik,

    Fabiodik Fabiodik Mar 5, 2016 2:57 AM in response to Fabiodik
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Mar 5, 2016 2:57 AM in response to Fabiodik

    Hi All,

     

    I removed the memory clean and 1password mini and it seems no more errors from killing processes due to lack of RAM but the fan keep going.. and going..

     

    I also run the hardware test but nothing was found.. shall I put the mac in the fridge??

     

    Thanks for any other ideas...

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.9.9 (260)

    Report generated 2016-03-05 14:53:39

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 3:38

    Performance: Good

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Other problem

    Description:

    Fan high speed… phase 2

     

    Hardware Information:

        MacBook Air (13-inch, Late 2010)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        MacBook Air - model: MacBookAir3,2

        1 2,13 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        4 GB RAM Not upgradeable

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n

        Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 863

     

    Video Information:

        NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB

            Color LCD 1440 x 900

     

    System Software:

        OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 (15D21) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information:

        APPLE SSD TS256C disk0 : (251 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 250.14 GB (129.89 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

    USB Information:

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple Card Reader 128,71 GB

            EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Transcend (disk1s2) /Volumes/Transcend : 128.37 GB (75.10 GB free)

        Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

    Gatekeeper:

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions:

            /Applications/VMware Fusion.app

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmci (90.6.3 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmioplug.14.1.3 (14.1.3 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmnet (0210.30.67 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmx86 (0210.30.67 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vsockets (90.6.0 - 2014-09-05) [Support]

     

    System Launch Agents:

        [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    162 Apple tasks

        [running]    67 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons:

        [not loaded]    44 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    157 Apple tasks

        [running]    86 Apple tasks

     

    Launch Agents:

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-03-03) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

     

    Launch Daemons:

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-01-29) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-03-03) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.helpertool.plist (2016-02-21) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (2016-01-09) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (2016-02-01) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.transcend.TSRecoverHandlerHelp.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [running]    com.transcend.TSSleepHandlerHelp.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.transcend.TSTRIMHandlerHelp.plist (2016-02-20) [Support]

     

    User Login Items:

        Dropbox    Application  (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

     

    Other Apps:

        [running]    com.etresoft.EtreCheck.149472

        [running]    com.getdropbox.dropbox.96352

        [loaded]    403 Apple tasks

        [running]    166 Apple tasks

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

        FlashPlayer-10.6: 20.0.0.306 - SDK 10.6 (2016-02-25) [Support]

        QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-02-19)

        Flash Player: 20.0.0.306 - SDK 10.6 (2016-02-25) [Support]

        Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-02-19)

        o1dbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 - SDK 10.8 (2016-02-22) [Support]

        googletalkbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 - SDK 10.8 (2015-12-11) [Support]

        MeetingJoinPlugin: Unknown - SDK 10.2 (2016-03-02) [Support]

     

    User internet Plug-ins:

        CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: 1.0.105 (2013-04-26) [Support]

     

    Safari Extensions:

        1Password (2016-02-28)

        Evernote Web Clipper (2016-02-21)

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

        Flash Player (2016-01-29) [Support]

     

    Time Machine:

        Skip System Files: NO

        Mobile backups: OFF

        Auto backup: YES

        Volumes being backed up:

            Macintosh HD: Disk size: 250.14 GB Disk used: 120.25 GB

        Destinations:

            3TB WDC [Local]

            Total size: 3.00 TB

            Total number of backups: 6

            Oldest backup: 20/02/16 20:02

            Last backup: 03/03/16 18:42

            Size of backup disk: Excellent

                Backup size 3.00 TB > (Disk size 250.14 GB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

            16%    kernel_task

            15%    opendirectoryd

             5%    automountd

             5%    WindowServer

             2%    od_user_homes(2)

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

        423 MB    kernel_task

        356 MB    mdworker(11)

        180 MB    Dropbox

        74 MB    Spotlight

        70 MB    mds_stores

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

        106 MB    Free RAM

        4.15 GB    Used RAM (713 MB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information:

        Mar 5, 2016, 02:48:41 PM    Self test - passed

        Mar 3, 2016, 04:51:14 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/com.apple.ICPPhotoStreamLibraryService_2016-03- 03-165114_[redacted].crash

            /System/Library/CoreServices/cloudphotosd.app/Contents/XPCServices/com.apple.IC PPhotoStreamLibraryService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.ICPPhotoStreamLibrarySer vice

        Mar 3, 2016, 04:51:11 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/loginwindow_2016-03-03-165111_[redacted].crash

            /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow

        Mar 3, 2016, 03:39:06 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Finder_2016-03-03-153906_[redacted].crash

            com.apple.finder - /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder

  • by Mike Sombrio,

    Mike Sombrio Mike Sombrio Mar 5, 2016 4:04 AM in response to Fabiodik
    Level 6 (17,233 points)
    Apple Watch
    Mar 5, 2016 4:04 AM in response to Fabiodik

    Did you reset the SMC?

  • by Fabiodik,

    Fabiodik Fabiodik Mar 5, 2016 4:53 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Mar 5, 2016 4:53 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    yup.. SMC, PRAM... no luck..

  • by etresoft,

    etresoft etresoft Mar 5, 2016 5:18 AM in response to Bart_M_J
    Level 7 (29,228 points)
    Mac OS X
    Mar 5, 2016 5:18 AM in response to Bart_M_J

    Hello Fabiodik,

    You ou should probably start your own thread instead of piggy-backing onto someone else's thread. That is a good way to get your problem ignored by most people.

     

    I can tell you that the killed processes is not something that will ever go away. When you restart, you just reset them. On a 4GB machine, you will always have them. But since you have an SSD, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Maybe use Activity Monitor to see which apps are using the most energy. And post the results in a new thread.

  • by Fabiodik,

    Fabiodik Fabiodik Mar 5, 2016 5:45 AM in response to etresoft
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Mar 5, 2016 5:45 AM in response to etresoft

    Hi Etresoft... thanks for the hint. Will do like that... Sorry, newbie here.. normally I don't have problems...

  • by saint-georges,

    saint-georges saint-georges Aug 21, 2016 2:10 AM in response to Mike Sombrio
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Aug 21, 2016 2:10 AM in response to Mike Sombrio

    Absolutely Mike Sombrio,

    I followed the link and the advice of jcschell :

    http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constantly-high-cpu-usage-soagent-callservic esd.1894835/#post-22536032

    #25

    I was also experiencing same issues as others: high CPU, high fan speed ...
    All issues stopped when I turned off contact syncing to gmail.
    Permanent Fix for me was to switch to BusyContacts . More power, less fan noise!

    The app is expensive ($50) but so far it is worth because yes all the issues that I encountered since years are gone.

    Plus this is really THE missing app of Apple. It seems quite insane that Mac user couldn't –since ages– manage their contacts. The publisher of BusyContacts seems reactive my questions about import/export (a need to be improved) were answered very nicely.

    The interview here http://macsparky.com/blog/2015/2/busycontacts-ships-and-interview explain their solution : make a powerful replacement for OS X Contacts. I wish that made it 10 or 20 years ago. The shame is really Apple leaving people struggle with their contacts managements. Mind you it's the same story with the photo management : a joke to be polite.

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