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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 2, 2015 10:37 AM in response to dnh1969
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    Nov 2, 2015 10:37 AM in response to dnh1969

    Have you tried using iPhoto instead of Photo's

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Nov 2, 2015 3:01 PM in response to dnh1969
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    Nov 2, 2015 3:01 PM in response to dnh1969

    There are no "fixes" in order to use iPhoto. You are simply making sure you have the latest copy of iPhoto on your computer so you can use it - that's it:

     

    Get iPhoto 9.6.1 if you didn't update before OS... | Apple Support Communities

     

    If you were happier using iPhoto, then you should go on using it. Your iPhoto Library is still there - you just need an app to be able to use it. So, you just need to get your iPhoto app back on your Mac.

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by urbananchorite,

    urbananchorite urbananchorite Nov 15, 2015 12:37 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Nov 15, 2015 12:37 PM in response to mystwillow

    I also am reverting to iPhoto for all the reasons mentioned, but I have a few hints that might help:

     

    A great app called iPhoto Library Manager.  This lets you divide all your iPhotos into separate libraries in any manner you wish.  I do it by trips and by years.  That way, iPhoto is speedy fast. 

     

    A great app called  Photosweeper.  Lets you compare photos face to face or in groups to delete near (or far) duplicates or similars. You set the perameters like close time, bitmap or histogram.  A huge timesaver.

     

    To me, those are the kind of upgrades I was hoping for within Photos.  Very disappointed.

     

    iPhotos has turned many of us into avid photographers because it has given us an easy way to edit and organize our digital photos.  I have little interest in sharing my photos via social media.  I find Photos difficult to use on my iPhone because one cannot modify the narrow way it works. 

     

    Apple is dealing with two completely different photographer markets.  AND they have eliminated Aperture.  How can Apple possibly think Photos will satisfy those users. I hope they recognize that or they will lose me

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 15, 2015 12:49 PM in response to urbananchorite
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    Nov 15, 2015 12:49 PM in response to urbananchorite

    There is no Apple replacement for Aperture, Photos is the successor to iPhoto, same market. Apple are out of the high end photographic market.

     

    Photos is a free app, never intended to address the high end market. It's editing facilities are already ahead of iPhoto, not so its organizational functions.

     

    But judging Photos after it's been in existence for a few months is a waste of time, do you remember what iPhoto was like a few months after it debuted?

  • by urbananchorite,

    urbananchorite urbananchorite Nov 15, 2015 1:10 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 15, 2015 1:10 PM in response to Csound1

    I have been a loyal Apple user and owner since 1985.  Right now sitting in my chair I can lay eyes on nine Apple products in this room, and that's not all of it I own.  I always try a new Apple software or product.  But what appears to going on here goes beyond what you said -- Apple is out of the high-end market. Aperture may have been that but iPhotos isn't -- it's a typical, elegant Mac any-user program.


    Of course I will watch Photos evolve but clearly it is intended to head in another direction than suits me. Otherwise they would have just upgraded iPhoto, or released Photos as an expanded iPhoto to service more modern needs or agreed to continue to service iPhotos.


    I migrated one of my iPhoto libraries to Photos when it first came out, being sure all the right preferences and options were chosen, but half my metadata was lost.  Nonetheless, I was going to start using Photos Jan 1 with a new Library but, after seeing all the on-line complaints and reviews to see if maybe I was just missing something, believe I will wait.


    My concern is that Apple is dumbing down its product and abandoning many of us long-time loyal customers for the selfie crowd. 


  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 15, 2015 1:12 PM in response to urbananchorite
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    Nov 15, 2015 1:12 PM in response to urbananchorite

    I said that iPhoto has been replaced by Photos, and that Aperture has NOT been replaced.

     

    And that Apple is out of the high end photographic market, I don't see how that means more than what I said.

  • by urbananchorite,

    urbananchorite urbananchorite Nov 15, 2015 1:15 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 15, 2015 1:15 PM in response to Csound1

    I always appreciated that Apple made sure its products were fairly complete before releasing them.  Sure, they need user feedback and I am sure Photos will get better.  Just hard to understand why Photos has less functionality than the previous iPhotos.  That's all I was saying.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 15, 2015 1:17 PM in response to urbananchorite
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    Nov 15, 2015 1:17 PM in response to urbananchorite

    In what area (other than organizational) does it have less functionality?

  • by urbananchorite,

    urbananchorite urbananchorite Nov 15, 2015 1:36 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 15, 2015 1:36 PM in response to Csound1

    The migration was not smooth, as I indicated but I was looking online to see if I missed something.  I always start looking at a problem by assuming it is me, not the software. 

     

    Organization is everything to me because I heavily edit, share and slideshow my photos. 

     

     

    As I mentioned, the duplicate searching through Photosweeper and the organization of separate libraries for separate purposes through iPhoto Library

    Manager are convenient tools that I now get from third parties software.  I have not checked yet to see if they have issued a Photos-compatible version but it would help make me the transition if they do.  Possible, but preparing to have to buy those again.

     

    I

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 15, 2015 1:39 PM in response to urbananchorite
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    Nov 15, 2015 1:39 PM in response to urbananchorite

    So stay with iPhoto, especially as it was so good it compelled you to buy 3rd party add-ons to improve it.

  • by Dagorwen,

    Dagorwen Dagorwen Jan 31, 2016 1:19 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Jan 31, 2016 1:19 PM in response to mystwillow

    MEEE TOOOO! I HATE this app. I HATE that I am being forced to switch over. I hate all the same things you hate about it. Please please let those of us who love iPhoto continue to use it!

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 31, 2016 2:31 PM in response to Dagorwen
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    Jan 31, 2016 2:31 PM in response to Dagorwen

    Then keep using iPhoto as many choose to. As long as you kept your updates current you can still use it.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jan 31, 2016 3:19 PM in response to Dagorwen
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    Jan 31, 2016 3:19 PM in response to Dagorwen

    You're not forced to do anything, not even spell correctly.

  • by mioan,

    mioan mioan Mar 7, 2016 12:46 AM in response to mystwillow
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    Mar 7, 2016 12:46 AM in response to mystwillow

    I absolutely agree with what you said:

    "I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox"

    I waited for El Capitan with the hope that Photos will be improved, but is still the same inferior product

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Mar 7, 2016 9:17 AM in response to mioan
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    Mar 7, 2016 9:17 AM in response to mioan

    Moments in Photos are the new Events, i.e. groupings of photos sorted by date taken.

     

    When the iPhoto Library was first migrated to Photos there is a folder created in the sidebar titled iPhoto Events and all migrated iPhoto Events (which are now Moments) are represented by an album in that folder.

    PsimulatedEvents.png

    To open the sidebar if it's not already open use the Option+Command+S key combination.

     

    NOTE: It's been reported by several users that if the Event albums are moved out of the iPhoto Library folder in the sidebar they may disappear.  It's not widespread but several users have reported that issue.  Therefore, if you want to assure that you keep those Event albums don't move them outside the iPhoto Events folder.

     

    There's a way to simulate events in Photos.

    When new photos are imported into the Photos library go to the Last Import smart album, select all the photos and use the File New Album menu option or use the key combination Command+N.  Name it as desired.  It will appear just above the iPhoto Events folder where you can drag it into the iPhoto Events folder

     

    When you click on the iPhoto Events folder you'll get a simulated iPhoto Events window.

    Albums and smart albums can be sorted by Title, by Date with oldest first and by Date with newest first.

     

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