Reuna111
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Q: macbook pro (late 2008) booting issue

Can someone give me advise on what could cause my macbook doing restarting loop when putting power on?

 

I have tried several things: pram reseting with cmd p r -combo and as well smc by taking the battery off and pressing power button several seconds.

I did reinstall osx again, leopard and snow leopard but still causing the same problem though sometimes it restarts fine after resetting smc but it keeps having the issue after i once turn it off. I thought maybe it's the hard drive so i installed osx to usb stick and tried starting it from there. First time it worked but after that it keeps asking to restart again.

 

So, maybe someone could advise me if there is something what i could still do to make it work? I guess, at least it's not a software issue or harddrive issue...(?)

MacBook Pro

Posted on Mar 11, 2016 1:52 PM

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  • by Frozen Tundra,

    Frozen Tundra Frozen Tundra Mar 11, 2016 3:29 PM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 11, 2016 3:29 PM in response to Reuna111

    Try booting to Safe Mode by holding down a Shift key when the system restarts. If the computer is able to boot properly, then you know the issue is likely with some third-party extension or add-on you have installed. This is especially true if the system only boots to Safe Mode and continues its reboot loop when you restart without the Shift key held down.

     

    If you cannot boot to Safe Mode, then try restarting to another OS X installation such as that on an external hard drive or the OS X installation disc (Lion users can boot to the Recovery HD partition by holding Command-R at startup).

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 1:00 AM in response to Frozen Tundra
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    Mar 12, 2016 1:00 AM in response to Frozen Tundra

    When I try booting to Safe Mode I get the same text on grey background that "You need to restart your computer. Hold down the power button...".

     

    There is nothing installed on the hard drive except osx. I have tried this from two different hard drives; one from the internal and one from external with usb connection. I brought my laptop to mac store and they said it should be because of broken hard drive or the cable of hard drive. But since I cant boot the computer from usb drive, it cannot be because of hard drive issue (?). There is nothing extra installed so it shouldnt be anything with third party extensions or add ons either...

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 12, 2016 3:10 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 12, 2016 3:10 AM in response to Reuna111

    Run an Apple Hardware Test.  that may offer a clue:

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257

     

    Note that an error free AHT is not conclusive.

     

    Ciao.

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 4:06 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 12, 2016 4:06 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    I just run the hardware test but it didnt find anything ("no trouble found"). Is there a way i could eliminate the possibility of broken cpu for example because i know the fans are getting broken and the laptop had been overheating sometimes when in heavy use quite a bit until crashes... . Does someone know if there is more comprehensive hardware test tool than the one with installation disc?

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 12, 2016 4:16 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 12, 2016 4:16 AM in response to Reuna111

    Reset the SMC and the NVRAM again.  Based on what you wrote in your original post, the NVRAM was not properly executed:

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204063

     

    Ciao.

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 4:34 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 12, 2016 4:34 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Ok. I did how it is guided in the above links. The laptop booted once fine. Then I turned it off normally to see if It starts fine again and it didnt. This time it booted fine until i saw the desktop screen but then i got kernel panic message again ("you need to restart..."). Any other tips??  I really need my laptop and at the moment have no money to buy a new one...

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 4:41 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 12, 2016 4:41 AM in response to Reuna111

    It seems I have to reset smc and pram every time I boot the laptop, only then it starts fine...

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 5:03 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 12, 2016 5:03 AM in response to Reuna111

    Actually, resetting pram everytime when boot it works fine, no need for resetting battery. What makes that kind of pram issue?

  • by Frozen Tundra,

    Frozen Tundra Frozen Tundra Mar 12, 2016 5:48 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 12, 2016 5:48 AM in response to Reuna111

    Your problem may not be the pram itself.

     

    What is corrupting the pram?

     

    Resetting the pram every time is the clue you must follow.  Find out what is corrupting it.

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 6:00 AM in response to Frozen Tundra
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    Mar 12, 2016 6:00 AM in response to Frozen Tundra

    Thanks for replying!

    I read from somewhere that there is a logicboard battery (not the main power source battery) which could cause that kind of issue. Is there a way to check if that is corrupting the pram?

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 12, 2016 6:04 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mar 12, 2016 6:04 AM in response to Reuna111

    Try to boot the MBP and then see if you can log and post a kernel panic report:

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201753

     

    Ciao.

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 6:17 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 12, 2016 6:17 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Sat Mar 12 14:57:44 2016

    panic(cpu 1 caller 0x2a8ac2): Kernel trap at 0x009ab122, type 14=page fault, registers:

    CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x000000bc, CR3: 0x00100000, CR4: 0x00000660

    EAX: 0x3187b5e8, EBX: 0x065fa804, ECX: 0x00000000, EDX: 0x00000000

    CR2: 0x000000bc, EBP: 0x3187b618, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0xffffffff

    EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x009ab122, CS:  0x00000008, DS:  0x065d0010

    Error code: 0x00000000

     

     

    Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)

    0x3187b388 : 0x21b449 (0x5ce420 0x3187b3bc 0x2238a5 0x0)

    0x3187b3d8 : 0x2a8ac2 (0x590478 0x9ab122 0xe 0x590642)

    0x3187b4b8 : 0x29e9a8 (0x3187b4d0 0x3 0x3187b618 0x9ab122)

    0x3187b4c8 : 0x9ab122 (0xe 0x48 0x31870010 0x9b0010)

    0x3187b618 : 0x9b42ef (0xc1d00007 0x2000000 0x2000003 0x40)

    0x3187b6b8 : 0x9d4276 (0x3187b848 0x9 0x0 0x0)

    0x3187b818 : 0x9d6354 (0x0 0x600d600d 0x7027 0x3187b848)

    0x3187b8e8 : 0xbacee2 (0xc1d00007 0x2000000 0x2000003 0x40)

    0x3187b918 : 0xbbb61e (0x2152c000 0x2000000 0x88100090 0x3e)

    0x3187b988 : 0xbbd5ee (0x2152c000 0x2000000 0x15 0x2152c01c)

    0x3187ba98 : 0x96fb00 (0x2152c000 0x0 0x3187bbaa 0x80)

    0x3187baf8 : 0x964606 (0x5f51800 0x0 0x3187bbaa 0x80)

    0x3187bbf8 : 0x964f34 (0x5f51800 0x5ee1880 0x964d5c 0x5f51800)

    0x3187bc88 : 0x950269 (0x5f51800 0x95745c 0x5f60340 0x55bfe80)

    0x3187bd08 : 0x94ebb2 (0x5f51800 0x5 0x5 0x213df8)

    0x3187bd38 : 0x532987 (0x5f51800 0x60e53e8 0x60e53e8 0x0)

    0x3187bd88 : 0x563364 (0x5f51800 0x60e53e8 0x60e53e8 0x0)

    0x3187bde8 : 0x285002 (0x5f51800 0x60e53e8 0x0 0x0)

    0x3187be58 : 0x21d7eb (0x58f2d68 0x58f2884 0x58f2d6c 0x58f2da4)

    0x3187be98 : 0x210977 (0x58f2d00 0x3187bedc 0x606f47c 0x3187bed0)

    0x3187bef8 : 0x216bda (0x58f2d00 0x0 0x0 0x0)

    0x3187bf78 : 0x293dd1 (0x6241848 0x0 0x0 0x0)

    0x3187bfc8 : 0x29f48d (0x6241844 0x0 0x10 0x5ba3564)

          Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):

             com.apple.NVDAResman(6.1.0)@0x96c000->0xc44fff

                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x92d000

                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.1)@0x95f000

                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.1)@0x93e000

             com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.1)@0x95f000->0x96bfff

                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.1)@0x93e000

                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x92d000

             com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.1)@0x93e000->0x95efff

                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x92d000

     

     

    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer

     

     

    Mac OS version:

    10D575

     

     

    Kernel version:

    Darwin Kernel Version 10.3.0: Fri Feb 26 11:58:09 PST 2010; root:xnu-1504.3.12~1/RELEASE_I386

    System model name: MacBookPro5,1 (Mac-F42D86C8)

     

     

    System uptime in nanoseconds: 16874975781

    unloaded kexts:

    (none)

    loaded kexts:

    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.3d0 - last loaded 16869579630

    com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.6.2

    com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.1.0

    com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver 1.0.1d8

    com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.10.21

    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 1.2.0

    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 1.8.4fc3

    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.4

    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.3.2

    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 1.8.4fc3

    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklight 170.0.16

    com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.0d4

    com.apple.kext.AppleSMCLMU 1.5.0d1

    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0

    com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.1.2

    com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 2.8.56

    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelYonahProfile 14

    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelPenrynProfile 17

    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelNehalemProfile 11

    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelMeromProfile 19

    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 4.1.1d0

    com.apple.GeForce 6.1.0

    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.4.11

    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 1.8.1b1

    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 1.8.1b1

    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.8.1b1

    com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 303

    com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.6.2

    com.apple.BootCache 31

    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1

    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 1.6.1

    com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx 422.91.27

    com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.5.7

    com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.1.1

    com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 160.0.0

    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 3.9.6

    com.apple.nvenet 1.0.73

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    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.5

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    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.4

    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 104.3.0

    com.apple.security.sandbox 0

    com.apple.security.quarantine 0

    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 2.1.11

    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 104.3.0

    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAPlatformDriver 1.8.4fc3

    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 1.8.4fc3

    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 1.8.4fc3

    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileReadCounterAction 17

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    com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.7.6fc2

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  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 12, 2016 6:27 AM in response to Reuna111
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    Mac OS X
    Mar 12, 2016 6:27 AM in response to Reuna111

    Make an appointment at an Apple store genius bar for a FREE evaluation.  It appears your MBP has an unhappy GPU.  Apple probably will not offer to repair it, but they should be able to precisely define the problem.  Bring a copy of the kernel panic rep[ort with you.

     

    Ciao.

  • by Reuna111,

    Reuna111 Reuna111 Mar 12, 2016 6:42 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 12, 2016 6:42 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Thanks for replying!

    I recently did a free diagnostics in apple store and they said there is problem with my hard disc (violated sectors) or violated hard drive cable and advised me to use external hard drive. But that not seem to be the case since i have tried from several hard drives. I know the laptop is too old model for apple supported new hardware and there is nothing they could really do... . Does it mean that I basically have to try replacing the gpu with an unsupported one myself since in stores they are not allowed to do that?

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