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Q: MacBook won't boot (even in safe mode)

Hi, I have a MacBook pro that won't boot. When I turn it on, I hear the boot up chime, but then the screen stays dark. I've tried every possible troubleshooting recommendation I could find on the internet, but nothing makes a difference. None of the booting option keys (booting into safe mode, target disk mode, boot disk selection, etc) do anything. I can reset the PRAM, but nothing else even makes a difference. All I can see is a black screen

 

Last night I was trying to install another OS in a dual boot configuration, so I was messing around with my hard drive's partitions. I thought worst case scenario, I could always reinstall the OS. Can you really break the entire boot sequence by formating the hard drive? I thought only a hardware failure would prevent me from booting to a recovery usb.

 

The computer is a MacBook Pro 15" early 2013I believe.

Thanks for your time

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013), OS X El Capitan (10.11.3)

Posted on Mar 12, 2016 8:01 AM

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  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Mar 12, 2016 8:07 AM in response to sanche21
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:07 AM in response to sanche21

    Does command-R work.

  • by sanche21,

    sanche21 sanche21 Mar 12, 2016 8:14 AM in response to a brody
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:14 AM in response to a brody

    no, none of the boot key combinations will do anything

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Mar 12, 2016 8:20 AM in response to sanche21
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:20 AM in response to sanche21

    If you suspect your Mac is broke, try Option key held down at Startup. This lights up with a gray screen right away, then spends as long as five minutes looking for any possible bootable volumes, and shows an icon for each one found.

     

    Or use Option-Command-R at Startup for Internet Recovery, if you have an available Internet connection. Macs after about 2011 should be able to do this.

     

    This should show a globe Icon, and ask for your Wi-Fi password if needed, then downloads the Recovery software from the Internet (takes a while).

  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Mar 12, 2016 8:30 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:30 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    There is no Option key in internet recovery.  It is simply command-R.

     

    OS X: About OS X Recovery - Apple Support

     

    Option key alone will bring up the startup manager if there is a bootable system on board.   If you accidentally formatted the boot block of all your partitions, yes, you'll need data recovery and an external bootable optical drive to recovery any information on board:

    http://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-1689

  • by sanche21,

    sanche21 sanche21 Mar 12, 2016 8:33 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:33 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Thanks a lot for your help, but again, none of these keyboard combinations are making a difference, the screen stays black the entire time. What do you think it would mean if I never even get to a boot menu? Hardware failure? It seems unlikely that my hardware would fail right after I tried setting up a dual boot, but that's all I can think of. I usually don't have to turn to the internet for these issues, but I'm stumped.

  • by a brody,

    a brody a brody Mar 12, 2016 8:34 AM in response to sanche21
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:34 AM in response to sanche21

    Have you tried simply resetting the SMC?   An older than 4 year old Mac is not recommended to reset the PRAM as the PRAM battery itself may have failed.

  • by sanche21,

    sanche21 sanche21 Mar 12, 2016 8:37 AM in response to a brody
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:37 AM in response to a brody

    @a brody

     

    sorry I didn't mean the option keys, I meant any key combinations (including command-R). So you think an optical drive would help? I tried booting off of a flash drive, but it doesn't seem to work. Would an optical drive be more likely to work? I'm not worried about recovering my data, I just want to get my computer back into a working state at this point.

  • by sanche21,

    sanche21 sanche21 Mar 12, 2016 8:41 AM in response to a brody
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:41 AM in response to a brody

    Sorry I didnt see your latest response. Yeah I tried resetting the smc. I'm not sure if it did anything though, I'll have to read up more on it. (My mac isn't older than 4 years btw, it's from 2013)

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Mar 12, 2016 8:40 AM in response to a brody
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:40 AM in response to a brody

    Using the Option key at startup should ALWAYS invoke the Startup Manager, whose code is all in ROM. No content on any drive is required to show a gray screen, if the screen is working. Not showing the gray screen says you have a Hardware problem.

     

    You are correct that if there are no bootable Volumes, nothing else will appear (no drive icons) in the next five minutes.

     

    Just as you say, It is typically not needed to hold the Option key with command R, and your Mac SHOULD do this automatically. But holding Command with Option and R can sometimes speed up the process. That shortcut is listed in this article, for example:

     

    Startup key combinations for Mac - Apple Support

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,Helpful

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Mar 12, 2016 8:49 AM in response to sanche21
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:49 AM in response to sanche21

    Thanks a lot for your help, but again, none of these keyboard combinations are making a difference, the screen stays black the entire time.

     

    Then you may have a Hardware problem. Holding the Option key at startup does not require anything on any Hard drive, and the code is all in ROM.

  • by sanche21,

    sanche21 sanche21 Mar 12, 2016 8:49 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Mar 12, 2016 8:49 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Ok, that's what I suspected. My screen is working, but it stays black. The only time the computer shows any life is if I let the battery die, then it shows the usual "battery low" image. Do you know what hardware might be broken? Do you think there's any chance of repair, or is it pretty much hopeless?

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Mar 12, 2016 9:23 AM in response to sanche21
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    Mar 12, 2016 9:23 AM in response to sanche21

    Make an appointment at your Apple store genius Bar, if you have one. The appointment for an evaluation is Free, in warranty or out.

     

    If you have no Apple store, the cost at an Apple authorized Service Provider should be fairly low, and you will get an idea of what the problem might be. There may be a recall program covering "display problems", so point out that the computer does seem to start properly and chime, but the screen stays black.