DedeMiller

Q: upgrading vs. buying new

Hi.  I have 2 Macbook Pro's, a 13" mid 2009 and a 15" mid 2010.  Both have issues right now.  My 15" has been dropped a couple times and has pulled apart at the  hinge, but still works.  I use it the most because the 13" doesn't hold a charge for long, and well the screen brightness is just better on the 15".  The battery on the 13" says "service soon", and the track pad can no longer be "pushed", only tapped.  The battery on the 15" says "replace soon".  I have a lot of photos (and videos) on both of them, more on the 15" because I use it the most.  I am trying to get rid of what I can right now, then I will back up all that is left.  Here are the specs for both:  13"- 2.26 GHz Intel core 2 Duo, Memory- 2GB, 1067 MHz DDR3, Graphics-NVIDIA Geforce 9400, 256 MB. The storage is 160 GB SATA disk, which currently has 36.18 GB free.

15"- 2.4 GHz Intel core I5, Memory- 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3, Graphics- NVIDIA Geforce GT 330M, 256MB, the storage is 320 GB SATA disk, 90 of which is still free.

 

My question is, should I take them both to Apple to be (fixed) and updated, or just put the money into something new?  I don't have the money like I did when I bought these ( I also own an IMac ) but I can spend about $1,200 if I need to.  I basically only use my computers for email and web surfing, no gaming, nothing extra special.

 

Also, is it okay to keep updating all three computers to the latest software available, or are they just too old to run the newest versions?  Thanks so much, I appreciate your help!

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Mar 16, 2016 11:13 AM

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  • by OGELTHORPE,Helpful

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 16, 2016 11:47 AM in response to DedeMiller
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    Mar 16, 2016 11:47 AM in response to DedeMiller

    Yes, do take them to Apple and find out exactly what needs to be done and the associated costs.  That will be information that will aid in an informed decision.  Note the evaluation at the genius bar will be FREE.

     

    Look in the refurbished section of the Apple online store and you might find a MBP that fits your budget.

     

    As far as software goes, the newer OSXs are happier with at least 4 GB RAM and better with 8 GB RAM.  That means additional dollars would have to be spent.  Do that only if you decide to keep them.

     

    Ciao.

  • by dwb,Helpful

    dwb dwb Mar 16, 2016 11:49 AM in response to DedeMiller
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    Mar 16, 2016 11:49 AM in response to DedeMiller

    Check this Apple knowledge base page: Vintage and obsolete products - Apple Support Depending on where you live the two computers may no longer be supported by Apple. This would limit your options in terms of upgrading and repairing. If it were me, I’d not spend any money on them. If the 2010 were undamaged it might be a different story. But neither computer will run El Capitan well without RAM upgrades (to 8GB) at a minimum and/or replacing the hard drive with an SSD. Add in a new battery for the 13” or repairs for the 15” and it just begins to make more sense to buy new. 

     

    The MacBook Air is a fantastic computer and within your budget. I don’t recommend the base MBP (the model with the optical drive) because it hasn’t been updated for a long time. Apple is keeping it around for those who can’t do without an internal DVD drive. Consider Apple refurbished to save a little money. They come with the same warranty as a new computer and the several I’ve purchased have looked brand new and lasted just as long as the new ones I’ve purchased.

  • by DedeMiller,

    DedeMiller DedeMiller Mar 16, 2016 11:50 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 16, 2016 11:50 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Great information, thank you very much!

  • by DedeMiller,

    DedeMiller DedeMiller Mar 16, 2016 11:52 AM in response to dwb
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    Mar 16, 2016 11:52 AM in response to dwb

    Thank you for answering.  I was looking through the refurbished page just the other night.  That might be the route I take.  I appreciate your help.

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 16, 2016 11:58 AM in response to DedeMiller
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    Mar 16, 2016 11:58 AM in response to DedeMiller

    Like my colleague dwb, have purchased refurbished Macs as well with great success..  Here are two that are within your stated budget limits.  Should you choose to pursue this option, do go to an Apple store and look at both first.

     

    http://www.apple.com/shop/product/FF839LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macbook-pro-27g hz-dual-core-intel-i5-with-retina-display

     

    http://www.apple.com/shop/product/FJVG2LL/A/refurbished-133-inch-macbook-air-16g hz-dual-core-intel-core-i5

     

    Ciao.

  • by DedeMiller,

    DedeMiller DedeMiller Mar 16, 2016 12:42 PM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 16, 2016 12:42 PM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Oh nice, thanks!  I just looked at the vintage list, all three are on there.  I guess they will be on the obsolete list soon.  Don't ask me why I purchased three computers so close together.  I'm sure after the 13", I wished I had bought the 15" size, so I did.  The IMac was my first purchase, so it's early 2009.  I still have 562.67 GB free (out of 640) on that one.  It's a beauty.  Bummer that it will eventually stop running, right?

    I need to get all my photos off of all three.  What can you tell me about that?  All I know is that I need an external hard drive.  I have two time capsules from years ago as well.  Last time I used them was 2011.  I can't even remember the passwords for them at this point. 

     

    I really appreciate you and dwb taking time to explain this stuff to me. 

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Mar 16, 2016 12:56 PM in response to DedeMiller
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    Mar 16, 2016 12:56 PM in response to DedeMiller

    I am not familiar with Time Capsule details but if you can get them functioning, that would be very good.  dwb might give you some thoughts on them.  He is technically more knowledgeable and proficient than I am.

     

    I use only 2,5" HDDs for all my needs because I prefer the flexibility they afford (internal as well as external) and they can be USB powered.  3.5" HDDs would be more cost effective for a given capacity so they should not be dismissed for backup purposes.

     

    Ciao.

  • by DedeMiller,

    DedeMiller DedeMiller Mar 16, 2016 1:13 PM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Mar 16, 2016 1:13 PM in response to OGELTHORPE

    I checked out both of the links for refurbished laptops.  I have always wanted an Air, just based on how thin and lightweight they are. (My Mom has one)  However, I like the looks of that Macbook Pro with Retina. 

     

    Okay on the external hard drive.  Thanks!

  • by dwb,

    dwb dwb Mar 16, 2016 1:55 PM in response to DedeMiller
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    Mar 16, 2016 1:55 PM in response to DedeMiller

    TimeCapsules: obviously you’ll need the passwords and if you are lucky they are stored in the Keychain. Launch the Keychain Access program (in the utilities folder) and search for Airport. That should show you a list of all the Airport stations you’ve connected to and unless the keychain has been started since you last used those TCs they should show up. Oh, you’ll want the TCs plugged in too because you’ll have to see the name of the TC to look for its password. So after the search, look for the name of a TC and when you kind it, double click on it. That will open a dialog which has a checkmark labeled Reveal Password. Click on that. You’ll be asked for a password - that is the password of your computer. You should now know the password of that TC.

     

    After logging on to that TC you should be able to use TimeMachine to look through the last backup in that TC listing and see if there are any files on it you want. If so, select them and they’ll be transferred. If you are told something exists with the same name you’ll be given an option to put them into a different folder.

     

    Photos and external drive: we need to know how you are storing your photos. Using iPhoto? In regard to drives, I prefer to make my own buying an enclosure from IcyDock or OWC and then usually a server class Toshiba or Western Digital drive. With pre-made external drives the enclosure tends to be cheap and you don’t know what kind of drive is inside. Building my own lets me control the quality.

  • by DedeMiller,

    DedeMiller DedeMiller Mar 16, 2016 2:07 PM in response to dwb
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    Mar 16, 2016 2:07 PM in response to dwb

    Wow, all I've got to say is that you two are very smart cookies!  I wish I could keep you in my back pocket. 

    Yes, all my photos are in iPhoto.  Most of my videos are in Finder, in my downloads. 

     

    Now I'm excited to see if I can retrieve the use of my TC. 

  • by dwb,

    dwb dwb Mar 16, 2016 2:23 PM in response to DedeMiller
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    Mar 16, 2016 2:23 PM in response to DedeMiller

    iPhotos by default keeps photos in a monolithic folder called iPhoto Library which is inside the Photos folder. If your computer don't all have the same photos....ouch. If they do, good. Copy the above mentioned file to the external hard drive. If they don't you have two basic choices. Export the photos from each library to a folder and then transfer them to the external. When you get the new computer import them into the Photos program. (Photos replaced iPhoto.) The other method is to choose one library to keep and transfer it. Then export photos from the other two libraries, and transfer to the external. when you get the new computer import the library first, then import the other photos.

  • by DedeMiller,

    DedeMiller DedeMiller Mar 16, 2016 2:35 PM in response to dwb
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    Mar 16, 2016 2:35 PM in response to dwb

    Basically all the same photos, yes. A few newer ones on the 15".   I use to upload from my camera to all three computers for safety reasons, in case anything happened to one.  

     

    I feel like I have been in a Mac101 class today, and let me just say, I have enjoyed my afternoon!  A thousand thank you's to you all.