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Q: ** Clean Install OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 -- iMessage/FaceTime Activation Doesn't Work

Starting a new thread here since it seems like the other one is getting cluttered up with keychain issues and such.

 

ISSUE SUMMARY:

There is an issue activating iMessage / FaceTime on a clean install of OS X El Capitan 10.11.4.  Error message in iMessage when logging in is "An error occurred during authentication."  FaceTime hangs and doesn't report an error. iCloud login works fine as does system login using Apple ID. 

 

DETAILS & ATTEMPTED TROUBLESHOOTING:

  • I have tried this on several different iMacs/Mac Book Pros in our office AND I have tested used two unique apple IDs. None of this makes any difference: it doesn't work on any clean installations.
  • The obvious steps of formatting the drive and reinstalling OS X El Capitan has no impact.
  • The same Apple IDs can successfully login to iMessage/FaceTime on a clean install of OS X Yosemite machine.  Updating a machine from OS X Yosemite -> OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 results in being able to successfully login to iMessage/FaceTime. (Note: I would follow these steps instead of posting here, but OS X Yosemite isn't compatible with iMac 5k Late 2015 models)
  • Followed steps in other posts to remove items from the keychain / change the keychain password. This did not make any difference. (Note: I wiped the machine and started over after this step so as to rule out further messing up the machine by tinkering with the keychain)
  • Tried the OS X El Capitan 10.11 installer followed by the 10.11.4 combo update. No difference.

 

So....Is there a BUG in OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 that is preventing iMessage activations on clean (aka non-upgraded) OS X installations?  Does anyone else care to test what I'm seeing?

Posted on Mar 23, 2016 5:23 AM

by martivip,Solvedanswer
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A:

Finally everything works like a charm

Posted on Mar 24, 2016 4:48 AM

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Q: ** Clean Install OS X El Capitan 10.11.4 -- iMessage/FaceTime Activation Doesn't Work

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  • by martivip,

    martivip martivip Mar 23, 2016 5:40 AM in response to bevnetcraven
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    Mar 23, 2016 5:40 AM in response to bevnetcraven

    I've tried also with clean install 10.11.3 and the problem still occur, earlier I don't experience any problems with iMessage and FaceTime activation on clean install 10.11.3

  • by bevnetcraven,

    bevnetcraven bevnetcraven Mar 23, 2016 5:46 AM in response to martivip
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    Mar 23, 2016 5:46 AM in response to martivip

    Actually, now that I read what I've done I can't get it to work on the base OS X El Capitan clean install either.

  • by martivip,

    martivip martivip Mar 23, 2016 6:11 AM in response to bevnetcraven
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    Mar 23, 2016 6:11 AM in response to bevnetcraven

    And thats why i think that problem is on the Apple side, a lot of El Capitan users upgrading their machines and Apple servers has huge problems with this traffic. Yosemite don't generates that huge traffic. For a few days we all activate our iM and FT on 10.11.4

    Shame Apple Shame...........

  • by Diegosos,

    Diegosos Diegosos Mar 23, 2016 9:07 AM in response to bevnetcraven
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    Mar 23, 2016 9:07 AM in response to bevnetcraven

    Same situation here!!!! exactly the same, had Apple support over the phone for literally 2 hours ( Between Yesterday and today I reinstalled OSX ) to come to the conclusion that it seems to be indeed a problem with El Capitan... So now no FaceTime or iMessage on the mac at all until THEY decide WHEN to fix it... could be days, could be weeks... I don't know if I should feel angry or disappointed...

     

    I was wondering is maybe putting the mac in internet recovery and then getting Mavericks ( which is the version my mac came with ) then log in to FaceTime and iMessage and THEN run the upgrade.....???? could that solve the issue??? if it does it sounds like quite the daunting procedure....

  • by mustgroove,

    mustgroove mustgroove Mar 23, 2016 9:10 AM in response to bevnetcraven
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    Mar 23, 2016 9:10 AM in response to bevnetcraven

    Also something that might be related - in Console I'm seeing the following message being generated every 3 seconds:

     

    23/03/2016 12:09:53.919 apsd[74]: Certificate not yet generated

  • by aka011,

    aka011 aka011 Mar 23, 2016 9:16 AM in response to bevnetcraven
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    Mar 23, 2016 9:16 AM in response to bevnetcraven

    I had the same problem and finally took mine to the Genius bar where they went through several processes before getting it to work. It now works fine. I couldn't tell you exactly what they did but it was something like a hard reset, however all of my data was fine.

  • by mustgroove,

    mustgroove mustgroove Mar 23, 2016 9:30 AM in response to aka011
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    Mar 23, 2016 9:30 AM in response to aka011

    Do you have any inkling what they did? Anything at all would be helpful

  • by ssimenko,

    ssimenko ssimenko Mar 23, 2016 9:50 AM in response to mustgroove
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    Mar 23, 2016 9:50 AM in response to mustgroove

    "Access to my Mac" in System Preferences / iCloud don't work too... says: iCloud server don't respond.

  • by martivip,

    martivip martivip Mar 23, 2016 9:56 AM in response to ssimenko
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    Mar 23, 2016 9:56 AM in response to ssimenko

    I have also noticed that in Find My Phone app my MBP disappear

    all settings are ok, Find My Mac in iCloud settings are enabled

  • by Uinluan574,

    Uinluan574 Uinluan574 Mar 23, 2016 10:56 AM in response to martivip
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    Mar 23, 2016 10:56 AM in response to martivip

    I have just checked and I have the same issue.  It says I am connect to iCloud and the settings are enabled.  However, it does not show up as a device in Find my iPhone and for me if I open up iMessages it fills in my apple ID and then just pinwheel like its thinking with no way to enter my iCloud password.

  • by antknee869,

    antknee869 antknee869 Mar 23, 2016 11:21 AM in response to martivip
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    Mar 23, 2016 11:21 AM in response to martivip

    I have the same issue :

    Cant login to iMessage or Facetime

  • by Diegosos,

    Diegosos Diegosos Mar 23, 2016 11:23 AM in response to Uinluan574
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    Mar 23, 2016 11:23 AM in response to Uinluan574

    Dont waste anymore time trying to troubleshoot this, after three and half hour call to apple support, there is just no fix... Dont waste more time... The only fix is for wait for Apple developers and engineers to decide when they want to take their fingers out if their &£@4ss and fix it...

     

    for some reason i thibk that in an extreme situation... reverting one's mac to an older os like yosemite or mavericks then logging in from there (facetime and imessage, have it logged in, then apply the update, the logging info might stay in bypassibg the whole problem... But this idea is untested... If i had more time i would try but its just too much if a hassel.

     

    I hope apple with prioritize this issue as is very embarrasing for them and mega über annoying for users...

  • by antknee869,

    antknee869 antknee869 Mar 23, 2016 11:32 AM in response to Diegosos
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    Mar 23, 2016 11:32 AM in response to Diegosos

    I can log in to iMessage on my iMac that I upgraded to 10.11.4 from the Mac store. Just not my MBP I did a clean install on

  • by Diegosos,

    Diegosos Diegosos Mar 23, 2016 11:42 AM in response to antknee869
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    Mar 23, 2016 11:42 AM in response to antknee869

    Cool.. So from what you tell, your imac is fine but not your macbook pro?

     

    the thing is that i was running 10.11.4 on tuesday and facetime was fine,as well as imessages it seems that it was fine. The problems seems to come when trying to log in on a fresh capitan install. When you upgraded el capitan in the imac, i presume facetime and imessage was logged in an enable wasnt it?

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