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Q: Multicam clip audio level and mix changing when put onto timeline

Hello!  I'm preparing a multicam clip with an audio mix to my liking but when I put that clip it onto my timeline for editing, the audio level has decreased 6 dB and I think the mixing has also changed somewhat.  I'm at loss to what is happening here!

 

Thanks for any help!

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.2), 3.5GHz i7 16GB ram 4GB video 1TB HD

Posted on Mar 29, 2016 8:46 AM

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  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Mar 29, 2016 9:23 AM in response to Deromax
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    Mar 29, 2016 9:23 AM in response to Deromax

    The pan law is controlling the stereo output. You should do your mix in the project not inside the multicam clip if at all possible.

  • by Deromax,

    Deromax Deromax Mar 29, 2016 10:20 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Mar 29, 2016 10:20 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    What do you call the pan law?

     

    And the way I see it, there is no obvious way to mix on the timeline, unless I expand the audio components.  When dealing with hundreds of edit points, that's quite a chore!  I need more than ON/OFF for givens tracks, I need to set the levels!

  • by Tom Wolsky,Helpful

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Mar 29, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Deromax
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    Mar 29, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Deromax

    TThe current standard procedure is to be exoand the audio and extend it for the duration of the multicam clip, or to actually detach it and edit the audio separa in parallel to the multicam video.

     

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_law

     

    FCP tends to reduce the audio more than normal based to on the overall average. It should do this better.

  • by Deromax,

    Deromax Deromax Mar 29, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Mar 29, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Thanks Tom, you set me on a good solution path!  I was able to select the already edited, expanded audio elements in groups and batch change them.  Fortunately, I had only 30 minutes already done out of a 2+ hour long project, so hopefully the remaining will now be easier!  I still think this is not totally intuitive and I haven't found much info about this in the user manual.

     

    I knew about the Pan-law concept in the context of a mixing console, but not under that name!  I find it strange that FCP-X would use this on my tracks as I have not used the pan function.  I have a stereo element that stays as-is and two mono files assigned hard Left and Right, all of them with the Pan mode set to None.

     

    I took written notes about all this to not forget them in the future, as I don't work often on such Multicam projects.  Anyway, thanks a lot!