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Q: Best OS for MBP mid 2009

Hi,

 

I have 13" mid 2009 MBP running 10.6.8. I had not upgraded the OS until now as I feared the performance will go down as it only has 2 GB RAM.

 

However, it has now reached to a level where its just becoming painful to use the system, so I am planning the following upgrade:

 

1. Max out RAM to 8 GB

 

2. Swap out optical drive for 250GB SSD for OS and keep the old 160 GB Hard Drive.

 

What I am not sure is with above upgrade which OS will be best suited for my MBP? I was planning to put Mavericks as I have heard both Yosemite and El Captain will not run that smooth on an older version of the macbook pro. I would really appreciate if someone can advice which will be the best OS? I mainly use my laptop for word processing and emails and yes light room 4.

 

Also, should I swap the optical drive for the new SSD or the old HDD? (My optical drive doesn't work anyways). I was earlier planning to get 500GB SSD but then decided to go for 250 and save some money as I have 1 TB external hard drive which I use since I work on multiple machines most of the times.

 

Any other advice or point I should keep in mind during the upgrade?

 

Many Thanks

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Feb 12, 2016 10:10 AM

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  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 12, 2016 7:39 PM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 12, 2016 7:39 PM in response to dvinny

    dvinny wrote:

     

    I was earlier planning to remove my old HDD and replace with new SSD and do a fresh OS install and convert the old HDD to external drive and copy only the data I need and leave the rest on the old drive just in case I want something out of it. But then I started thinking of replacing my optical drive as it does not work and thought it will be better to replace that.


    Quick question here (sorry as this may be a daft one) if I install the new OS in the new SSD drive would it automatically uninstall the old OS and all the applications from the old drive? Honestly I don't mind deleting everything and starting fresh. In case I wipe off everything install new OS then what would happen to my time machine backups would they still work I am assuming yes but just want to be sure before I go ahead with this.

     

    It appeared you were going to clean this one up as a base for the new one, which seems bad to me, hence my post.

     

    When you install to a new disk the old data doesn't have to come over, you can choose to migrate it if you wish. Connect the old disk either after install during setup (Setup Assistant) or connect it afterwards and migrate data (/Applications/Utilities/Migration Assistant).

     

    You can pick what to copy, Users is where all your important data is so that probably all you need.

    You can just install OS X to install it if you want it clean.

    Move your content to a new Mac - Apple Support

     

     

    Time Machine is tied to the computer name & MAC address if I recall correctly. So you need to use the same computer name in 'System Preferences > Sharing'. Set that before you connect the TM disk. That should allow the backup to remain continuous. It it doesn't remain continuous you will still be able to browse the old data via the Time Machine UI (normally opened via the menubar). I haven't moved TM backups from 10.6 to 10.11.

     

    A new install will add a lot to the backup, so have plenty of room to grow on your backup disk, otherwise old files can be purged.

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Feb 12, 2016 8:26 PM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 12, 2016 8:26 PM in response to dvinny
    Quick question here (sorry as this may be a daft one) if I install the new OS in the new SSD drive would it automatically uninstall the old OS and all the applications from the old drive? Honestly I don't mind deleting everything and starting fresh. In case I wipe off everything install new OS then what would happen to my time machine backups would they still work I am assuming yes but just want to be sure before I go ahead with this.

    The original disk would be be untouched.  If you went with putting the SSD in the DVD slot, then you would have 2 bootable disks, and you would need to use System Preferences -> Startup Disk to specify which is your default boot device.

     

    However, what a lot of people do is to clone their original drive on the the SSD.  Of course that is not a clean install, and if that is your desire, then you would do the clean install, then either use Applications -> Utilities -> Migration assistant to move your data over, or drag and drop (much more tricky for some things).

     

    My upgrade to El Capitan was using EtreCheck to clean out a lot of cruft, then I did an upgrade install over the top of the existing OS (Mavericks for me).  But I had a mostly clean system with respect to 3rd party additions.  And any additions I kept, I made sure to upgrade to the most recent versions.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Feb 13, 2016 7:29 AM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 13, 2016 7:29 AM in response to dvinny

    Check to make sure your applications are compatible. PowerPC applications are no longer supported after 10.6.      

     

    Application Compatibility

     

    Applications Compatibility (2)


     

    El Capitan 10.11 Compatibility information

     

    Do a backup before installing, preferable 2 backups on 2 different drives.

  • by dvinny,

    dvinny dvinny Feb 14, 2016 10:10 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Feb 14, 2016 10:10 AM in response to BobHarris

    Thanks all for your suggestions, went out to get the required things for the upgrade. Got myself 2 x 4 GB RAM and installed it (followed the instructions online and the new ram is working great). Bought Samsung 850 EVO (250 GB) SSD to replace the optical drive but they didn't had the caddy so have ordered online which will be delivered in couple of days.

     

    So the plan is to install the SSD in the optical bay and do a clean install of El Capitan on the SSD and keep the old one as it is. Once installed, boot from the new SSD and monitor the performance. If all goes well then keep the El Capitan and remove the old OS all together and move only the user profile and important things to the new drive.

     

    Am I missing anything or do you guys think its a good plan?

     

    Honestly I am happy with the 10.6.8 and with hardware upgrades I am sure it will work really well but thanks to Goto Meeting who have removed support for 10.6.8 I will have to upgrade the OS as some of my clients use that I have to organize lot of meetings on that tool.

     

    Thanks

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 14, 2016 10:21 AM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 14, 2016 10:21 AM in response to dvinny

    dvinny wrote:

     

    Am I missing anything or do you guys think its a good plan?

     

    Spotlight & Time Machine both automatically backup & index internal disks. Take that into account with any TM  backups (exclude the other OS disk if you want).

     

    Spotlight will reindex internal disks but 10.6's index is not compatible with 10.11 & vice versa. It may cause you to be reindexing the disks after booting into the other OS. Not a major problem, but annoying when you have to wait to find something.

     

    Personally I set other boot disks not to mount on startup in every OS, you can still mount them manually via Disk Utility.

    I use 'fstab' to do this for the entire system. Ask if you want to create /etc/fstab entries, otherwise make an Applescript or similar to eject the disk on login, it may be enough.

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Feb 14, 2016 11:56 AM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 14, 2016 11:56 AM in response to dvinny

    From inside iTunes and Photo preferences you should be able to point to the original disk Music and Pictures folders for you music and pictures.

     

    Also enable TRIM

    <http://osxdaily.com/2015/10/29/use-trimforce-trim-ssd-mac-os-x/>

  • by dvinny,

    dvinny dvinny Feb 16, 2016 6:36 AM in response to Drew Reece
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    Feb 16, 2016 6:36 AM in response to Drew Reece

    I am still waiting on the caddy, looks like it will take couple of more days to arrive.

     

    But I have got another question now. I was reading about adding the second drive and I came across another article which mentioned that it will be better to add the SDD to the main drive rather than in the optical drive slot. Following is the line from the article (below is for the MacBookPro 5,5 model)

     

    "While the SSD does function, it will only do so at SATA Revision 1.0 (1.5Gb/s) speeds rather that the SATA Revision 2.0 (3.0Gb/s) speed the machine can deliver."

     

    While the above does make sense and had started to think about switching the bays for my SSD and the normal HDD when I was told by another engineer to be careful while adding the spinning HDD in the optical drive and to be sure not to cover the breather holes for regular spinning HDD's or else there is a good chance that the drive will crash.

     

    Now I am not able to decide where to put the SSD? In the optical bay or the standard bay...

     

    Any suggestions please.

     

    Many Thanks

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 16, 2016 6:52 AM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 16, 2016 6:52 AM in response to dvinny

    Put it in the fastest bay.

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Feb 16, 2016 8:28 AM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 16, 2016 8:28 AM in response to dvinny

    You can look at Applications -> Utilities -> System Profile -> SATA and find the "Link Speed" for the current Disk and the DVD.  That should be the fastest the link can go.


    As it is best to put the SSD in the fastest interface location.  If they are BOTH the same "Link Speed", then you can use either location for the SSD.

     

    My 2011 15" Macbook Pro has identical "Link Speed" for both the original hard disk and the DVD locations (I've since replaced my hard disk with a 1TB SSD, and I still have my DVD, which while using attached to a SATA controller that can do 6 Gigabits, has Negotiated the speed down to 1.5 because the DVD is not that fast).  In my case I could have put the SSD in either slow and gotten the same performance.  Since I got a bigger SSD than the hard disk I did not need to remove the DVD to have the storage I wanted.

  • by dvinny,

    dvinny dvinny Feb 16, 2016 9:03 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Feb 16, 2016 9:03 AM in response to BobHarris

    BobHarris wrote:

     

    You can look at Applications -> Utilities -> System Profile -> SATA and find the "Link Speed" for the current Disk and the DVD.  That should be the fastest the link can go.


    As it is best to put the SSD in the fastest interface location.  If they are BOTH the same "Link Speed", then you can use either location for the SSD.

     

    My 2011 15" Macbook Pro has identical "Link Speed" for both the original hard disk and the DVD locations (I've since replaced my hard disk with a 1TB SSD, and I still have my DVD, which while using attached to a SATA controller that can do 6 Gigabits, has Negotiated the speed down to 1.5 because the DVD is not that fast).  In my case I could have put the SSD in either slow and gotten the same performance.  Since I got a bigger SSD than the hard disk I did not need to remove the DVD to have the storage I wanted.

     

    That was really helpful Bob and saved me the unnecessary trouble of shifting the hard drives. It looks like I have same speed for both the slots. Details below

     

    NVidia MCP79 AHCI:

     

      Vendor:    NVidia

      Product:    MCP79 AHCI

      Link Speed:    3 Gigabit

      Negotiated Link Speed:    1.5 Gigabit

      Description:    AHCI Version 1.20 Supported

     

    ST9160314ASG:

     

      Capacity:    160.04 GB (1,60,04,18,85,696 bytes)

      Model:    ST9160314ASG 

     

    --------------------

     

    NVidia MCP79 AHCI:

     

      Vendor:    NVidia

      Product:    MCP79 AHCI

      Link Speed:    3 Gigabit

      Negotiated Link Speed:    1.5 Gigabit

      Description:    AHCI Version 1.20 Supported

     

    MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868:

     

      Model:    MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868      

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Feb 16, 2016 11:12 AM in response to dvinny
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    Feb 16, 2016 11:12 AM in response to dvinny

    That was my situation on my Late 2009 27" iMac.  Both the hard disk and the DVD were 3 Gigabit, so I pulled the DVD and put a 480GB SSD from MacSales.com, and kept the hard disk where it is.

     

    And I used the exact same System Profiler trick to verify the SATA speed.  It also allowed me to make sure I did not overspend on a faster SSD, when all I needed was one that could do 3Gigabits, and not pay a premium for 6 Gigabit.

     

    The bad news is, I was getting close to replacing that iMac, but now, it is running way too well, and I do not have any justification to replace it

  • by dvinny,

    dvinny dvinny Apr 13, 2016 8:22 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Apr 13, 2016 8:22 AM in response to BobHarris

    Right so I finally got everything in place. 250 GB SSD installed in the optical drive slot and all is working well. BUT

     

    How do I do clean install of El Capitan on the SSD? I tried making bootable USB but no joy. The createmedia command doesn't work on 10.6.x (so i have been told) and neither does DiskMaker X. Any suggestions ?

     

    I want to keep my old system as it is on the old spinning drive (including the OS) and make it dual boot using the SSD by installing El Capitan on it. This is to test if El Capitan would work as per expectation and if not then I will go back to 10.6.8 and enjoy my new SSD and RAM and forget about the OS completely.

     

    I hope the above is a feasible plan, if yes please help !!

     

    Thanks

  • by BobHarris,Solvedanswer

    BobHarris BobHarris Apr 13, 2016 10:23 AM in response to dvinny
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    Apr 13, 2016 10:23 AM in response to dvinny

    dvinny wrote:

    How do I do clean install of El Capitan on the SSD? I tried making bootable USB but no joy. The createmedia command doesn't work on 10.6.x (so i have been told) and neither does DiskMaker X. Any suggestions ?

     

    I want to keep my old system as it is on the old spinning drive (including the OS) and make it dual boot using the SSD by installing El Capitan on it. This is to test if El Capitan would work as per expectation and if not then I will go back to 10.6.8 and enjoy my new SSD and RAM and forget about the OS completely.

     

    I hope the above is a feasible plan, if yes please help !!

    1st and foremost backup your system (2 backups to separate devices using different backup utilities would be ideal )

     

    Booted from your 10.6.8 disk, you should be able to start the El Capitan install and then point it to your SSD so that you are doing a new install on the SSD.

     

    The backups are so that if something goes wrong, you will still have a copy of your 10.6.8 system safely backed up.

  • by dvinny,

    dvinny dvinny Apr 14, 2016 1:08 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Apr 14, 2016 1:08 AM in response to BobHarris

    So if I just select the new drive during the installation I will get to keep both the OS i.e. 10.6.8 and El Capitan?

     

    Also, below is the Etrecheck report. Is there anything I should be worried about? Thanks

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.9.3 (253)

    Report generated 2016-04-14 13:35:42

    Download EtreCheck from http://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 2:42

    Performance: Excellent

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: No problem - just checking

     

    Hardware Information: ⓘ

        MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

        1 2.26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        8 GB RAM

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

        Battery: Health = Replace Soon - Cycle count = 1780 - SN = W09350LMA784A

     

    Video Information: ⓘ

        NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

            Color LCD 1280 x 800

            spdisplays_display_connector

     

    System Software: ⓘ

        OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 (10K549) - Time since boot: about 17 hours

     

    Disk Information: ⓘ

        ST9160314ASG disk1 : (149.05 GB) (Rotational)

            - (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh (disk1s2) /  [Startup]: 159.70 GB (3.35 GB free) (Low!)

     

        Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB disk0 : (232.89 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: No)

            - (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            El Capitan (disk0s2) /Volumes/El Capitan : 249.72 GB (249.40 GB free)

     

    USB Information: ⓘ

        SanDisk Cruzer Force 14.91 GB

            - (disk2s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            elcap (disk2s2) /Volumes/elcap : 15.66 GB (15.63 GB free)

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

        PixArt HP X500 USB Optical Mouse

        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    Configuration files: ⓘ

        /etc/hosts - Count: 14

     

    Kernel Extensions: ⓘ

            /Library/Extensions

        [not loaded]    org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxDrv (4.1.18) [Support]

        [not loaded]    org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxNetAdp (4.1.18) [Support]

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        [not loaded]    org.virtualbox.kext.VBoxUSB (4.1.18) [Support]

     

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            /System/Library/Extensions/HuaweiDataCardDriver.kext/Contents/PlugIns

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        [not loaded]    com.MBB.driver.MBBEthernetData (5.01.09) [Support]

     

    Startup Items: ⓘ

        HWNetMgr: Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWNetMgr

        Startup items are obsolete in OS X Yosemite

     

    System Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [loaded]    66 Apple tasks

        [running]    8 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons: ⓘ

        [loaded]    137 Apple tasks

        [running]    29 Apple tasks

     

    Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [running]    HWPortCfg.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.CS4ServiceManager.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Support]

        [failed]    com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist [Support] [Details]

        [failed]    com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist [Support] [Details]

        [failed]    ouc.plist [Support]

     

    Launch Daemons: ⓘ

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.versioncueCS4.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [Support]

        [failed]    com.rim.BBDaemon.plist [Support] [Details]

     

    User Launch Agents: ⓘ

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        [loaded]    com.facebook.videochat.[redacted].plist [Support]

        [loaded]    org.virtualbox.vboxwebsrv.plist [Support]

        [loaded]    2 Apple tasks

     

    User Login Items: ⓘ

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        SpeechSynthesisServer    Application  (/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks /SpeechSynthesis.framework/Versions/A/Resources/SpeechSynthesisServer.app)

        Activity Monitor    Application  (/Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app)

        Android File Transfer Agent    Application  (~/Library/Application Support/Google/Android File Transfer/Android File Transfer Agent.app)

     

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        [running]    [0x0-0x1e01e].org.mozilla.firefox

        [running]    [0x0-0x34034].org.m0k.transmission

        [running]    [0x0-0x5a05a].com.etresoft.EtreCheck

        [running]    [0x0-0xe00e].com.stuffit.MagicMenu

     

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        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.6.6

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        iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

     

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        Picasa: Version: 1.0 [Support]

        WebEx64: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.6 [Support]

     

    Audio Plug-ins: ⓘ

        iSightAudio: Version: 7.6.6

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ

        Adobe Version Cue CS4  [Support]

        Flash Player  [Support]

        MacFUSE  [Support]

        NTFS-3G  [Support]

     

    Time Machine: ⓘ

        Time Machine information requires OS X 10.8 "Moutain Lion" or later.

     

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             6%    WindowServer

             4%    plugin-container

             3%    Transmission

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        213 MB    mds

        197 MB    java

        66 MB    plugin-container

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        4.02 GB    Used RAM

        0 B    Swap Used

     

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        Apr 12, 2016, 07:36:31 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193631_[redacted].crash

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        Apr 12, 2016, 07:36:30 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193630_[redacted].crash

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        Apr 12, 2016, 07:36:29 PM    /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193629_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:31:40 PM    ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193140_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:31:36 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193136_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:31:36 PM    /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193136_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:31:35 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193135_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:31:35 PM    /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-04-12-193135_[redacted].crash

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        Apr 12, 2016, 07:03:11 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-190311_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:03:11 PM    /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-04-12-190311_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:03:10 PM    /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-04-12-190310_[redacted].crash

        Apr 12, 2016, 07:03:10 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-04-12-190310_[redacted].crash

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM Apr 14, 2016 1:55 AM in response to dvinny
    Level 6 (13,791 points)
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    Apr 14, 2016 1:55 AM in response to dvinny

    I like the fact the none of the regular contributors supply any other options of OS X to upgrade to.

    Everyone, but me, it seems, is always pushing the latest and greatest OS X whether the Mac, in question can handle it or not!

    If you find the EL Capitán is not working that well for you and your Mac and since OS X 10.9 Mavericks isn't available any longer, the next closest OS X version that is still available for sale with a special download code is OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion.

    It has the same hardware specs for installation as El Cap.

    OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion purchased emailed download code here.

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/D6377Z/A/os-x-mountain-lion

    Apple will send you an email for the special download code for the Mac App Store within three days ( or slightly earlier)  of purchasing the download code.


    Good Luck!

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