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Q: i cannot connect my Ibook G3 to the internet via Airport.

Hi
I bought a Ibook G3 recently  and cannot connect to the internet via Airport. I can find my internet provider and it lets me input the password for it, but after that i keep getting the same message:
"An error occured while trying to join the selected airport network. -3151.
the password is correct, so I don't know why its not connecting.
I have checked the card and it looks ok.

 

the Ibook is a Mac OS 9.2

version Mac OSZ1-9.2.2

 

Please help! - i feel like im going crazy trying to get it to work

MacBook, iOS 9.2

Posted on Apr 16, 2016 7:38 AM

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  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax Apr 16, 2016 5:57 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 16, 2016 5:57 PM in response to NZG73

    I would start by temporarily disabling wireless encryption on your wireless network. Once you do, try seeing if your iBook can connect now. If so, the built-in AirPort card in your iBook may not be able to connect to wireless networks using either WPA or WPA2. It would depend on the version of the card itself.

     

    What exact model or order number is your iBook? Both would start with the letter "M." For example, a typical model number would be: M2453. An example of an order number would be: M7707LL/A. All of the G3 iBook's had the option for an 802.11b AirPort card.

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Apr 17, 2016 1:02 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 17, 2016 1:02 PM in response to NZG73

    Hello, again!

     

    Was over making a mess in your other thread, adding a few links

    & a few extra lengthy paragraphs that generally may apply, or not.

     

    Good to see you did diversify your question to other areas, since

    the question primarily was wireless in the old iBook (dualUSB) G3.

    And another would be in learning how to set up whichever MacOS

    you were going to try & use online.

     

    Did you locate a retail install DVD for Tiger 10.4? Does your iBook

    have a CD-ROM drive, or a combo DVD-read/CD R/W? The CD

    version of Tiger is very rare and would be four disc installer set.

     

    My first edition 12-inch iBook G3 dual-USB (may 2001) did not have

    a suitable drive for DVD media; it was the first model low-end version.

     

    Later I was given a FireWire external optical superdrive; by

    then I was already past using the early dual-USB iBook G3.

     

    What will it be used for mostly?

     

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 17, 2016 2:36 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Apr 17, 2016 2:36 PM in response to K Shaffer

    Hi there, again, KS!
    lol, i didnt know if i would get many bites on the other thread, seeing as the Ibook is of a certain vintage

    the Ibook does have a DVD drive and ive manged to find a tiger disc online..so that may be the way forward.

    I will mostly be using the Ibook as a back-up computer in case anything happens to my main computer. so mostly web surfing and messengers, using the dvd etc.

    i know i wont be able to use it for art programmes and thats fine.

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 17, 2016 2:38 PM in response to Tesserax
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    Apr 17, 2016 2:38 PM in response to Tesserax

    Hi Tesserax

    the model number of my ibook is: M6497.(Mac OS 9.2  version Mac OSZ1-9.2.2)

    it is a white ibook.
    and the Airport card has these numbers (amongst others):

    S/N 152JATLP6

    AIRPORT ID: 003065152078

    AND: 3892D451.

     

    Im not sure i know how to disable the password on my router..i think its pretty much hardwired into it :/

  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax Apr 17, 2016 5:27 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 17, 2016 5:27 PM in response to NZG73

    and the Airport card has these numbers (amongst others):

    S/N 152JATLP6

    Ok, it looks like you have a revision 2 card. This card can support both WEP & WPA wireless security. It cannot connect to a wireless network using WPA2.

    Im not sure i know how to disable the password on my router..i think its pretty much hardwired into it :/

    Sounds like you don't have an Apple router. Most routers do allow you to access their configuration settings via a web browser interface. If yours allows for this, you may be able to (temporarily) disable wireless security that way ... or be able to change it to the WPA level.

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 18, 2016 6:55 AM in response to Tesserax
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    Apr 18, 2016 6:55 AM in response to Tesserax

    Hi Tesserac
    that is correct, i don't have an Apple router..and I have looked on all the documentation on my router and cant find a way to disable the password. i will have another look on the web browser interface..if i can change it to WPA, is the connection less secure?

     

     

    is there any way around this - for example, using a dongle or ethernet connection?

  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax Apr 18, 2016 3:05 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 18, 2016 3:05 PM in response to NZG73

    ..and I have looked on all the documentation on my router and cant find a way to disable the password. i will have another look on the web browser interface.

    Maybe we can help. What is the make & model of your router?

    ..if i can change it to WPA, is the connection less secure?

    Yes, but not significantly. WPA, although not as secure as WPA2, is many times more secure than WEP ... or no security at all.

    is there any way around this - for example, using a dongle or ethernet connection?

    Possibly. A number of vendors do provide USB wireless adapters. Other World Computing (OWC) is one I know that does. Not sure if they have them for iBooks though.

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 18, 2016 4:48 PM in response to Tesserax
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    Apr 18, 2016 4:48 PM in response to Tesserax

    hi Teserax
    well, thats something, at least..definitely be something i'll be looking into

  • by Jan Hedlund,

    Jan Hedlund Jan Hedlund Apr 18, 2016 5:37 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 18, 2016 5:37 PM in response to NZG73

    As has been indicated by Tesserax already, WPA could be used with an internal AirPort card (but only if the iBook has Mac OS X 10.3 or later and is using AirPort software version 3.3 or later).

     

    If you wish to use WPA2, or if there is a problem with WPA or earlier security protocols, you may want to try a USB wireless (Wi-Fi) adapter instead. The problem with USB adapters is that they need special driver software. There may be a few USB adapters available with support for Mac OS X 10.3 or 10.4 (often difficult to find, but examples may include versions of ASUS USB-N13). Check specifications and requirements before you buy. Please note that the speed will be limited by a USB 1.1 port (12 Mbps).

     

    At this point, the iBook in question is running Mac OS 9.2.2. In principle, with that operating system, one could make the iBook connect via WPA or WPA2, but not via the AirPort card or a USB wireless adapter. An external wireless Ethernet bridge (connected to the Ethernet port of the computer) would have to be used. There are such devices (also known as gaming or media adapters) from several manufacturers. Netgear WNCE2001 and Linksys WET610N are merely two examples. One disadvantage is the size. Another is that a separate power supply may be needed (although the WNCE2001 could use power via USB). Typically, a wireless Ethernet bridge setup can be done via a standard web browser (it does not have to be on the computer where the device is to be used later). The main advantage is that special driver software is not (usually) needed, thus allowing the wireless Ethernet bridge to work under almost any operating system (even on some very old Macintosh computers, as long as they are Ethernet-capable). Some of the Wi-Fi range extenders have an Ethernet port, and may be used in a similar way.

     

    However, the choice of web browsers for Mac OS 9.x is limited (iCab is one, but do expect difficulties accessing certain web sites).

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 19, 2016 11:47 AM in response to Jan Hedlund
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    Apr 19, 2016 11:47 AM in response to Jan Hedlund

    Hi Jan
    Well, the first thing im going to do is update the OS to X 10.4 (Tiger) as i know im pretty much limited to what i can do with the OS im at now.
    I'm going to start looking round for suitable dongles that may work with OS once its updated..its just finding the right ones.

     

    What is an external wireless Ethernet bridge? I understand when an Ethernet wire is, but not familiar with an ethernet bridge :/

  • by Tesserax,

    Tesserax Tesserax Apr 19, 2016 12:30 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 19, 2016 12:30 PM in response to NZG73

    What is an external wireless Ethernet bridge? I understand when an Ethernet wire is, but not familiar with an ethernet bridge :/

    A wireless Ethernet bridge is a device that connects to an existing Wi-Fi network and provides Ethernet connections for non-wireless network clients. Think of a network bridge, like a real one, as allowing you to connect two different media (wireless & wired) together.

     

    One example of this type of device is the AirPort Express. The Express can be configured to "join an existing wireless network," and when doing so its Ethernet ports will be enabled for wired clients, like your iBook.

  • by Jan Hedlund,

    Jan Hedlund Jan Hedlund Apr 19, 2016 7:48 PM in response to NZG73
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    Apr 19, 2016 7:48 PM in response to NZG73

    Hi NZG73,

     

    Yes, upgrading to Mac OS 10.4 is probably a wise decision (you may have to make sure that the computer has enough RAM). For WPA2, the easiest way could be to use a USB wireless (Wi-Fi) adapter, if you can find one with the necessary Mac drivers (at least two of the USB devices under the OWC link provided by Tesserax are said to support 10.4, and the same seems to be true for versions of the ASUS USB-N13 model).

     

    A wireless Ethernet bridge can appear in many shapes, and under different names. Netgear WNCE2001 and Linksys WET610N are examples of  media/gaming adapters, which allow the connection of wired (Ethernet) devices like TVs, game consoles and computers to a wireless network (router). Also, Wi-Fi range extenders (such as TP-LINK TL-WA850RE and Netgear WN3000RP) often include an Ethernet bridge mode. You may want to download user manuals for some of the products in order to find out more about their capabilities.

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 20, 2016 6:36 AM in response to Tesserax
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    Apr 20, 2016 6:36 AM in response to Tesserax

    Hi Tesserac
    that sounds like another good way i could possibly connect my Ibook. so an "Airport express" could also work with my Ibook?..i'm going to make a note of this
    Also, ( on a sort-of un-related topic)  if i connect the Ibook via an Ethernet wire, do i need to disconnect the Airport card or does it not matter?

  • by NZG73,

    NZG73 NZG73 Apr 20, 2016 6:40 AM in response to Jan Hedlund
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    Apr 20, 2016 6:40 AM in response to Jan Hedlund

    Hi Jan
    Thank you for the Ethernet bridge information! - this is all excellent stuff its certainly a learning curve for me has given me lots of examples of how i can get an internet connection for the Ibook.

     


    so is a USB wireless adapter the same as a dongle?

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