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Q: Why cant Siri work offline?

I know that Siri works only when you are connected to internet because it sends data to Apple servers. However for minor things like launching photos, dial my contact, open notes etc.. why does it need to connect to apple servers?

iPad Air, iOS 8.4, Siri

Posted on Jul 9, 2015 1:00 PM

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  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Apr 20, 2016 4:35 PM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 20, 2016 4:35 PM in response to Whickwithy

    Whickwithy wrote:

     

    Not on the iPad on the mini-mac.  And, before you mention virtual memory differences, I don't allow my computer to use virtual memory, so the memory storage is exactly the same.  I'll admit that there might be a remote chance that it is accessing the drive for other purposes but it is not storing any program memory there.

    That explains it. Thank you.

     

    I'm not sure why I'd mention RAM as I don't think it's relevant to this discussion.

     

    I'm would also not assume because a desktop computer could do something that a small portable device could do the same thing.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Apr 20, 2016 4:38 PM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Apr 20, 2016 4:38 PM in response to Meg St._Clair

     

     

    I'm not sure why I'd mention RAM as I don't think it's relevant to this discussion.

     

     

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  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Apr 20, 2016 4:40 PM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 20, 2016 4:40 PM in response to Whickwithy

    Did you need me to translate that into some other language?

  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen Apr 20, 2016 4:42 PM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 20, 2016 4:42 PM in response to Whickwithy

    Basically, if you check very closely, the mini uses about 1 Gbyte for of ram for dictation.  It increases some over time but it's easy to clear out.  My iPod has 16 Gbyte and I could have gotten a lot more.

     

    That's 16GB of storage space, not RAM for computing purposes. The latest iPod reportedly has 1GB of RAM.

     

    A 64GB device is not faster than 16GB device.

  • by ShagCA,

    ShagCA ShagCA Apr 20, 2016 4:59 PM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Apr 20, 2016 4:59 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

    I just checked an iPhone with iOS 9.3.1. Enabling dictation requires a connection to apple servers. So there is no offline dictation feature on iOS 9.

     

    The following discussion made me think offline dictation feature is available on iOS 9 US English. I'm not sure what they're talking about now. Sorry for the incorrect info.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/426k5e/til_ios_9_enabled_offline_dictati on_on_iphone_6s/

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Apr 20, 2016 5:02 PM in response to ShagCA
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    Apr 20, 2016 5:02 PM in response to ShagCA

    ShagCA wrote:

     

    I just checked an iPhone with iOS 9.3.1. Enabling dictation requires a connection to apple servers. So there is no offline dictation feature on iOS 9.

     

    The following discussion made me think offline dictation feature is available on iOS 9 US English. I'm not sure what they're talking about now. Sorry for the incorrect info.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/426k5e/til_ios_9_enabled_offline_dictati on_on_iphone_6s/

    Whickwithy clarified. They were referring to a Mac Mini, not an iPad Mini.

     

    Thanks for your help.

  • by ShagCA,

    ShagCA ShagCA Apr 20, 2016 5:05 PM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Apr 20, 2016 5:05 PM in response to Meg St._Clair

    Yeah, I saw that. I have suspected the snapshot was taken off of a Mac instead of iOS. I'm back to straighten things out because I don't want to leave misleading information.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Apr 20, 2016 5:10 PM in response to ShagCA
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    Apr 20, 2016 5:10 PM in response to ShagCA

    ShagCA wrote:

     

    Yeah, I saw that. I have suspected the snapshot was taken off of a Mac instead of iOS. I'm back to straighten things out because I don't want to leave misleading information.

    Always appreciated.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Apr 20, 2016 5:42 PM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 20, 2016 5:42 PM in response to Whickwithy

    II'm really intrigued by how you prevent a UNIX-based OS from using virtual memory, as it's built into the kernel. I've been a UNIX admin for almost 40 years, and I've never seen a way.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Apr 21, 2016 5:43 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Apr 21, 2016 5:43 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    By doing a restart anytime it attempts to use it.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Apr 21, 2016 5:46 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Apr 21, 2016 5:46 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Did you need me to translate that into some other language?

    Read from the beginning of the thread.

     

    And, as far as the processor it concerned, I take back my cocky statement.  You may be right.  iOS processors are dumber than a bag of hammers.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Apr 21, 2016 5:59 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 21, 2016 5:59 AM in response to Whickwithy

    Whickwithy wrote:

     

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Did you need me to translate that into some other language?

    Read from the beginning of the thread.

    Now I'm not sure what you mean. I've been following this thread since it started. You're the only person to bring up RAM. Demo was not talking about RAM when he was talking about the space necessary to store large databases. RAM is memory the computer uses to run programs in. Storage memory (think your hard drive) is where things like databases are stored. Larry will correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't believe Siri needs large amounts of RAM to run. It's therefore, not relevant to the discussion of why Siri requires a data connection.

  • by Whickwithy,

    Whickwithy Whickwithy Apr 21, 2016 6:19 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Apr 21, 2016 6:19 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    So, the mini-mac is constantly accessing the hard drive to do dictation?  Maybe so.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Apr 21, 2016 6:26 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 21, 2016 6:26 AM in response to Whickwithy

    Whickwithy wrote:

     

    So, the mini-mac is constantly accessing the hard drive to do dictation?  Maybe so.

    While it may or may not be true, I didn't say that.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Apr 21, 2016 8:35 AM in response to Whickwithy
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    Apr 21, 2016 8:35 AM in response to Whickwithy

    That sounds incredibly inconvenient. I restart my Mac maybe once a month. I can't comprehend any reason to prevent OS X from working the way it was designed to work. Unix memory management has been perfected and enhanced continuously over the past 40 years. It's designed so that anything that is in constant use is kept in memory, and only code or data that has not been used recently is paged out.

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