RF-Musician-Berlin
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Q: Bootcamp can't OEM

The Apple website described with details,  how to install Windows using Boot Camp.

But it's not told, that you can't do this with an OEM version.

I got the following results:

A Facebook group with the topic "Apple users helps other Apple users" said to me "you're kidding" and banned me.

Apple told me via telephone,  that Windows as OEM (what I bought separately), doesn't run.

When I told my disadvantages,  to buy Windows again or a PC, they couldn't offer to me, to send some money on my appstore account.

Here now my warning.

Bootcamp can't handle OEM or test versions.

[Sarcasm]Great, that my Apple becomes more expensive. I like it to spend money.  [/sarcasm]

Feel, like using a cab and the driver takes a longer way, than needed,  to getting more money and wasting my time and money.

Mac mini, OS X El Capitan (10.11.4)

Posted on Apr 25, 2016 3:51 AM

by Loner T,Solvedanswer
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A:

In most cases, OEM disks are tied to specific hardware. There are lower-priced versions of Windows (System Builder) which can be used across different hardware.

 

OEM disks are usually restore disks compared to full retail disks.

 

From Install Windows 7 and earlier on your Mac using Boot Camp - Apple Support (as an example),

 

System Requirements

To install Windows 7 and earlier using Boot Camp, you need the following:

  • An Internet connection
  • An administrator account in OS X to use Boot Camp Assistant
  • The keyboard and mouse or trackpad that came with your Mac (If they aren’t available, use a USB keyboard and mouse)
  • A minimum of 2 GB of RAM
  • 30 GB of free disk space is recommended if you're installing Windows for the first time, or 40 GB of free disk space if you are upgrading from a previous version of Windows
  • An authentic Microsoft Windows full install disc or ISO file
  • A built-in optical drive, or a compatible external optical drive is required if you're using an install disc
  • A 16 GB or larger USB storage device or drive formatted as MS-DOS (FAT) to install Windows Support software (drivers)

 

PCs of different manufacturers, based on retail agreements, may allow OEM versions to be installed. They are usually cheaper because of Microsoft-PC Vendor agreement.

 

As a test, download W8.1/W10 (W7 requires a Product Key) from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/home and install it and you will get 30-days to activate Windows. If you have an OEM License Key, try to use it and activate Windows. If you get errors, call Microsoft and ask why your key does not work.

Posted on Apr 25, 2016 3:15 PM

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Q: Bootcamp can't OEM

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  • by Damien 7777,

    Damien 7777 Damien 7777 Apr 25, 2016 7:28 AM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin
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    Apr 25, 2016 7:28 AM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin

    I am in the process of installing Boot Camp. I went to the Apple website and it showed that Windows must be an ISO file. Years ago, I installed Boot Camp a Mac, and I used OEM soft wear. Unfortunately, you didn't see it. Don't blame Apple

  • by RF-Musician-Berlin,

    RF-Musician-Berlin RF-Musician-Berlin Apr 25, 2016 1:39 PM in response to Damien 7777
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    Apr 25, 2016 1:39 PM in response to Damien 7777

    Bootcamp offers both options,  I tried both and I told the error message Apple,  they said,  that Bootcamp can't handle system builder and test versions, so I can blame Apple for knowing an issue and not telling.

    You said "Years ago", years ago, the Mac could run Power PC programms, like Apple Works.

  • by BobTheFisherman,

    BobTheFisherman BobTheFisherman Apr 25, 2016 1:49 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin
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    Apr 25, 2016 1:49 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin

    OEM versions of Windows are configured to support specific hardware. For example, a DELL OEM version of Windows will not even run on an ASUS computer never mind an Apple computer. Buy the correct version of Windows and it will run very well on your Apple computer.

  • by RF-Musician-Berlin,

    RF-Musician-Berlin RF-Musician-Berlin Apr 25, 2016 2:11 PM in response to BobTheFisherman
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    Apr 25, 2016 2:11 PM in response to BobTheFisherman

    Specific hardware?

    The company, where I bought my copy of windows, offers different computers without operating system, and for all these computers is the OEM dvd mend.

    Acer Aspire with AMD, Lenovo with Intel, HP with Intel, Shuttle barebone, Asus Vivo...

    Very, very specific hardware...

  • by RF-Musician-Berlin,

    RF-Musician-Berlin RF-Musician-Berlin Apr 25, 2016 2:29 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin
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    Apr 25, 2016 2:29 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin

    I give information,  that others may not have disadvantages with a Windows copy, that works on nearly every PC, except Mac.

    .And I earn statements from people, that mess universal System Builder Versions, working on different brands, with System Builder Versions especially made for one brand and being part of the computer.  Not sold separately.

    Do you really think,  that I tried to run a DVD,  that wouldn't work on one PC model only?

    By the way, this week comes an Asus mini PC to me, that is compatible to the Windows DVD I have. May I take photos,  that you can believe,  that the DVD can be installed on this sooo specific hardware?

  • by Loner T,Solvedanswer

    Loner T Loner T Apr 25, 2016 3:15 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin
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    Apr 25, 2016 3:15 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin

    In most cases, OEM disks are tied to specific hardware. There are lower-priced versions of Windows (System Builder) which can be used across different hardware.

     

    OEM disks are usually restore disks compared to full retail disks.

     

    From Install Windows 7 and earlier on your Mac using Boot Camp - Apple Support (as an example),

     

    System Requirements

    To install Windows 7 and earlier using Boot Camp, you need the following:

    • An Internet connection
    • An administrator account in OS X to use Boot Camp Assistant
    • The keyboard and mouse or trackpad that came with your Mac (If they aren’t available, use a USB keyboard and mouse)
    • A minimum of 2 GB of RAM
    • 30 GB of free disk space is recommended if you're installing Windows for the first time, or 40 GB of free disk space if you are upgrading from a previous version of Windows
    • An authentic Microsoft Windows full install disc or ISO file
    • A built-in optical drive, or a compatible external optical drive is required if you're using an install disc
    • A 16 GB or larger USB storage device or drive formatted as MS-DOS (FAT) to install Windows Support software (drivers)

     

    PCs of different manufacturers, based on retail agreements, may allow OEM versions to be installed. They are usually cheaper because of Microsoft-PC Vendor agreement.

     

    As a test, download W8.1/W10 (W7 requires a Product Key) from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/home and install it and you will get 30-days to activate Windows. If you have an OEM License Key, try to use it and activate Windows. If you get errors, call Microsoft and ask why your key does not work.

  • by RF-Musician-Berlin,

    RF-Musician-Berlin RF-Musician-Berlin Apr 26, 2016 4:25 AM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 26, 2016 4:25 AM in response to Loner T

    I can understand,  that Apple thinks, this reply would be correct,  but it isn't so. The Windows DVD tells me on it's label to be a full version. And Apple uses a term, that may not to be understood as "no System Builder, no OEM"

     

    Would it be so clearly,  the "experts" hadn't say, that I make jokes, they would ask me "do you try to use an OEM or System Builder edition?"

     

    At least,  Boot Camp gave me disadvantages.  Beside the time wasting with trying to install and the money I have to pay for an additional computer, that people call me stupid.  Stupid because I claim,  that it may not work, stupid because I didn't understand, what Apple said in a way, that is easy to misunderstood.

     

    Better, I doesn't share my experience.  May others be fooled by Apple,  I prefer,  not to be hurt by proud people, that worship the Apple company.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 26, 2016 12:33 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin
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    Apr 26, 2016 12:33 PM in response to RF-Musician-Berlin

    RF-Musician-Berlin wrote:

     

    I can understand,  that Apple thinks, this reply would be correct,  but it isn't so.

    The only way to mark a discussion solved is when the author of discussion (Original Post/Poster) marks it as solved. Apple does not marked as solved.

     

     

    Would it be so clearly,  the "experts" hadn't say, that I make jokes, they would ask me "do you try to use an OEM or System Builder edition?"

     

    At least,  Boot Camp gave me disadvantages.  Beside the time wasting with trying to install and the money I have to pay for an additional computer, that people call me stupid.  Stupid because I claim,  that it may not work, stupid because I didn't understand, what Apple said in a way, that is easy to misunderstood.

    You bought a Mac, probably paying 2500-3000 Euro. It is an expensive machine. An OEM/System Builder version would probably cost 100 Euro. Do you see the contradiction in your own statement? No one has labelled your question as 'stupid'. I suggested a possible test, without spending and single Euro, which you should try.

     

     

    Better, I doesn't share my experience.  May others be fooled by Apple,  I prefer,  not to be hurt by proud people, that worship the Apple company.

    You have a Mac from Apple, correct?

  • by RF-Musician-Berlin,

    RF-Musician-Berlin RF-Musician-Berlin Apr 26, 2016 1:17 PM in response to Loner T
    Level 1 (18 points)
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    Apr 26, 2016 1:17 PM in response to Loner T

    A 500 EUR Mac.

    Everyone loves it to save money. 

    At least, I solved the problem by ignoring Boot Camp and adding a nice Mac mini copy in silver.

    It's to risky to me, to do any experiments with my Mac.