Geoffreylubbock

Q: Is Photos for mac going to be improved?


I transferred most of my photos from IPhoto to Photos.

IPhoto worked very well with batch changes of names places etc

Also I could find photos by location, date etc

You cannot sort photos by date (except date entered in the system and I have thousands of photos scanned from years ago)

You cannot get photos by location so you cannot find photos easily like you could in Iphoto

Whoever introduced photos is totally incompetent

Is it being fixed or should I migrate everything back to Iphoto or should I find another system - either on mac or PC

Thanks

Geoff Lubbock

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.2)

Posted on May 1, 2016 3:14 PM

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  • by Keith Barkley,Helpful

    Keith Barkley Keith Barkley May 6, 2016 6:56 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock
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    May 6, 2016 6:56 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock

    I really like the Missing Manual series by O'Reilly. They have one for Photos - though it combines iOs and MacOs

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 5, 2016 10:51 PM in response to Keith Barkley
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    May 5, 2016 10:51 PM in response to Keith Barkley

    I like them too!

    But the help page for Photos needs updating and more content. Apple used to write good user guides.

  • by Geoffreylubbock,

    Geoffreylubbock Geoffreylubbock May 6, 2016 7:10 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock
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    May 6, 2016 7:10 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock

    Larry

    It is hard to climb the learning curve when the information is so hard to find.

    For example who would have guessed that you could not sort Photos by anything other than date added unless you put all the photos into an album.

    Congratulations to you for figuring it out.

    As to finding location by text, I must misunderstand you.

    Nearly all of my photos have no description and many of the photos as done by Scancafe so the name of the file is a series of numbers.

    If I understand you, I have to go into every single file and add a description with the full address such a 100 Via Veneto, Rome, Italy.

    Then I can find photos with Italy, or Rome or Via Veneto. However, if I check Italia or Roma, I will find nothing so I need to know every word.

    The time required is far beyond anything that I can contemplate and far less efficient that the system at working IPhoto.

    Have I misunderstood you?

    Thanks

    Geoff

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 6, 2016 7:22 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock
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    May 6, 2016 7:22 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock
    If I understand you, I have to go into every single file and add a description with the full address such a 100 Via Veneto, Rome, Italy.

    Maybe your problem is that you understand things that have never been said

     

    NO one sad a word about changing anything

     

    here is what was said - have you tried it?

     

    2 - You can find photos by location, date, etc using the search command or smart albums (file menu ==> new smart album)
    To find the one of Italy search on "italy" or make a smart album for text contains "italy"

    Nothing at all about making any changes inanything

     

    LN

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 6, 2016 7:37 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock
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    May 6, 2016 7:37 AM in response to Geoffreylubbock

    The search field is very versatile.  As an example of what Larry recommended:

    Typing the name of a place into the search field will show several search results: County, City, Neighborhood,...

    Pick the result from the list you have been looking for. This will work, if the photos have GPS coordinates or you assigned a location from the Info panel.

    Screen Shot 2016-05-06 at 16.29.49GMT.jpg

     

    Searching for text using a smart album will find the country name or city name, if GPS coordinates are available.

  • by kroes,

    kroes kroes May 6, 2016 6:29 PM in response to léonie
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    May 6, 2016 6:29 PM in response to léonie

    Does Photos allow you to delete the master from the hard drive yet. It did not at first, and I am wondering if one can do this now.

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 6, 2016 10:17 PM in response to kroes
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    May 6, 2016 10:17 PM in response to kroes

    Of course not - the masters are critical to the operation of photos and ot the non destructive editing

     

     

    LN

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 7, 2016 9:31 AM in response to kroes
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    May 7, 2016 9:31 AM in response to kroes
    Does Photos allow you to delete the master from the hard drive yet

    Yes, but only if you want to delete the photo completely from your library and are running a "managed" library.

    Pmanreflibrary.png

    OTsig.png

  • by kroes,

    kroes kroes May 8, 2016 6:49 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 8, 2016 6:49 AM in response to Old Toad

    Thanks OT...I use referenced.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 8, 2016 9:12 AM in response to kroes
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    May 8, 2016 9:12 AM in response to kroes

    Thanks OT...I use referenced.

    Then you are responsible for keeping the referenced, source files up to date with deletions.  As you've probably noticed in these forums referenced libraries are not recommended.

  • by kroes,

    kroes kroes May 8, 2016 10:59 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 8, 2016 10:59 AM in response to Old Toad

    Yes. Old habits are hard to break. I used reference files with Aperture and I know to get the most out of the photos app is to have it managed.

    Thanks

  • by kroes,

    kroes kroes May 8, 2016 11:47 AM in response to kroes
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    May 8, 2016 11:47 AM in response to kroes

    I am thinking of going to Photos from Elements 13. I have was using Aperture for years and when it ended I went to Elements.

    I have all of my photos on an external organized by year.  I understand that I can import these into Photos...but how do I get them all into Photos as "masters".  In other words--I can take a photo with my iphone and it will auto import the photo into "photos".  I can actually see the photo after import in the Masters folder of "photos".  How would I get all of my photos off the external into that masters folder within "photos"?

     

    I imported my 2016 photos into "photos" from my external...and they imported without a problem.  Are they being read as "referenced" becuase they were imported from another source?

     

    How would I manage them so that these photos on the external will import into "photos" and now appear under the masters folder within "photos" like the photo I took with the iphone?

     

    Thanks

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 8, 2016 12:00 PM in response to kroes
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    May 8, 2016 12:00 PM in response to kroes

    they are referenced if you imported them as referenced - See Old Toad's post above)

     

    You can see what photos are referenced - make a new smart album (file menu ==> new smart album) for Photos is referenced

     

    You can change those to managed (copy the original to the Photos library) by selecting all in that smart album and using the Consolidate command (file menu ==> consolidate)

     

    It is best to always keep the preference to copy imported items to the Photos library checked and not use a referenced library

     

    LN

  • by kroes,

    kroes kroes May 8, 2016 12:11 PM in response to LarryHN
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    May 8, 2016 12:11 PM in response to LarryHN

    OK thanks.

     

    Also: I just started using mail and moving away from Outlook.

    How do I email a photo using "photos" when using mac mail?

    In the share- there is no spot to check for "mail".  (mail is listed as my default email)

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 8, 2016 12:20 PM in response to kroes
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    May 8, 2016 12:20 PM in response to kroes

    In the mail preferences verify that Mail is set as the default mail reader and in the Photos share menu it should be there - if not click on more and add it

     

    If that does not work see this article  --  If Share options or Markup is missing after upgrading to OS X Yosemite or El Capitan - Apple Support

     

     

     

    LN

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