joemorgan

Q: Install codecs without the player

Can you install just the codecs? Apple has ended support for Windows users but the codecs are all I should need. I may even dump my i-phone service over this. It appears to me that Apple turned their back on all the windows users and forgot that we still purchase Apple products. That's a gross over-site in my opinion.

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Posted on May 10, 2016 3:09 AM

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  • by QuickTimeKirk,

    QuickTimeKirk QuickTimeKirk May 10, 2016 3:53 AM in response to joemorgan
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    May 10, 2016 3:53 AM in response to joemorgan

    Apple ended Windows support for an 11 year old product. Things like that happen ever day.

    Use a different player like VLC. No extra codecs required.

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 10, 2016 5:23 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 10, 2016 5:23 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    I appreciate your response QuickTimeKirt, however,

     

    If QuickTime is 11 years old. How come QuickTime is still supported and works on a MAC?

     

    I do video editing and a lot of my clients .mov files no longer import into editing my programs without conversion as a result. That's why I need the codecs. This is why I say Apple threw Windows uses under the bus.

    That and anyone who has a Camera that captures video using mov. Cannon, Nikon, and more can be effected by this. The way I see it Apple even turned it's back on all the manufactures of Camera equipment that sell their products to Windows users.

  • by QuickTimeKirk,

    QuickTimeKirk QuickTimeKirk May 10, 2016 5:34 AM in response to joemorgan
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    May 10, 2016 5:34 AM in response to joemorgan

    Apple started QuickTime Player version 10 in 2009 for OS X and it is now version 10.4. It's Mac only.

    Apple ended support for "legacy" codecs in OS X so QuickTime X must also convert them.

    The cameras you mentioned will still work without any conversion as they all use the H.264 video codec (also 11 years old).

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 10, 2016 6:04 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 10, 2016 6:04 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    Here are two examples of why you are wrong on this subject. Bottom line, Apple has rejected the needs of Windows users. Then should have kept us in the loop, it's not like Apple cannot afford to support the Windows platform. They choose not to. They also utilize Microsoft developed technology in their operation systems. How ironic is that?  2.png1.png

  • by QuickTimeKirk,

    QuickTimeKirk QuickTimeKirk May 10, 2016 6:08 AM in response to joemorgan
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    May 10, 2016 6:08 AM in response to joemorgan

    Apple has ended support for all of its Windows versioned software. QuickTime Player 7 was just the last one.

    There are dozens of third party apps that can open your .mov files. Try one.

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 10, 2016 6:23 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 10, 2016 6:23 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    What makes you think installing a player will fix my mov importing problems??? It's the software that has been rendered less than ideal that I'm not pleased about. Apple also thumbed their nose at software manufactures as well.

     

    I can play any video I want. I've been using Media Player Classic for several years now.

     

    Apples QuickTime player has always opened off centered and partially off-screen on all my windows machines. I never used the QuickTime player because of it. Apple never addressed that problem either. It's a widely reported bug in this very forum dating back years.

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 10, 2016 6:43 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 10, 2016 6:43 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    And let me expand on this as well. All of my QuickTime movie animations with transparency have been rendered useless after removing QuickTime.

     

    I created these animations in After Effects and invested a ton of hours creating some of them. The more I think about it. I will definitely dump my I-phone as soon as my contract expires. Thanks for the memories Apple, now say goodby!

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 10, 2016 7:19 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 10, 2016 7:19 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    I'd love to hear some more feedback if you've got it. The cat hasn't gotten your tongue has it. Please pardon the pun. I'd love to solve this but I think it's still a classic case of Apple disregarding a lot of people "And Large Companies, software manufactures, etc."  just because they are not MAC users. 

  • by Klaus1,

    Klaus1 Klaus1 May 10, 2016 11:24 AM in response to joemorgan
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    May 10, 2016 11:24 AM in response to joemorgan

    RIP QuickTime for Windows. Apple is "deprecating support" for the application, and will no longer patch security flaws in the software.

    In this regard, QuickTime for Windows now joins Microsoft Windows XP and Oracle Java 6 as software that is no longer being updated to fix vulnerabilities, and subject to ever-increasing risk as more and more unpatched vulnerabilities are found affecting it.

    So, Windows users should uninstall Quicktime. How to do so is detailed here:

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205771

    Mac OS users should not do so as the security risks that have prompted this do not affect the Apple OS.

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 14, 2016 3:02 AM in response to Klaus1
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    May 14, 2016 3:02 AM in response to Klaus1

    Mac OS users should not do so as the security risks that have prompted this do not affect the Apple OS.

    THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT.

    Apple threw Windows users under the bus. Windows users have a lot of cameras and camcorders that use the mov codec. Not to mention movies they created with the QuickTime codec.

    I for one encourage all windows users to throw their I-phones in the electronics scrap bin. Apple has proven they don't care about Windows users and they must think we will all run out and buy an over priced MAC. Dream on Apple.

     

     

  • by QuickTimeKirk,

    QuickTimeKirk QuickTimeKirk May 14, 2016 4:13 AM in response to joemorgan
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    May 14, 2016 4:13 AM in response to joemorgan

    You don't need any codecs. All you need is a different player. There are dozens of them.

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 14, 2016 6:36 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 14, 2016 6:36 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    As I have stated above. My complaint has to do with video editing and the editing programs that will not import .mov movies. A video player cannot resolve this. I also have a lot of videos with transparent backgrounds created with the animation codec. I cannot even convert then into another format.

     

    So once again for all the windows users to read.

     

    Mac OS users should not do so as the security risks that have prompted this do not affect the Apple OS.

    THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT.

    Apple threw Windows users under the bus. Windows users have a lot of cameras and camcorders that use the mov codec. Not to mention movies they created with the QuickTime codec.

    I for one encourage all windows users to throw their I-phones in the electronics scrap bin. Apple has proven they don't care about Windows users and they must think we will all run out and buy an over priced MAC. Dream on Apple.

  • by QuickTimeKirk,

    QuickTimeKirk QuickTimeKirk May 14, 2016 6:57 AM in response to joemorgan
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    May 14, 2016 6:57 AM in response to joemorgan

    Apple ended support for the Animation codec in OS X, too.

    Does the free VLC player work with your file?

    Can the video editing software that created your file export to a different code like PNG which also supports transparency?

  • by joemorgan,

    joemorgan joemorgan May 14, 2016 7:22 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk
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    May 14, 2016 7:22 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

    No it cannot. Why, because you cannot open the file without quicktime installed.

     

    THIS IS THE WHOLE POINT.

    Apple threw Windows users under the bus. Windows users have a lot of cameras and camcorders that use the mov codec. Not to mention movies they created with the QuickTime codec.

    I for one encourage all windows users to throw their I-phones in the electronics scrap bin. Apple has proven they don't care about Windows users and they must think we will all run out and buy an over priced MAC. Dream on Apple.

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