kyled871

Q: Locking the Set

So, I have a drummer with 1 midi device mapped to:

-start the playback of his click and backtracks

-select the set (basically each set is a song)

 

We also have a keyboard player with 1 midi device mapped to:

-play patches (keyboard sounds)

-select said patches in each set (sometimes 1 song has 3-4 patches)

 

With that said, is there anyway to keep my keyboard player from accidentally switching too many patches and ending up in a totally different set (song). That way he doesn't mess up our drummers click track and backtracks.

MainStage, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on May 9, 2016 7:46 PM

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Q: Locking the Set

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  • by daFrimpster,

    daFrimpster daFrimpster May 10, 2016 7:54 AM in response to kyled871
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    May 10, 2016 7:54 AM in response to kyled871

    I believe that ticking the defer patch change checkbox on the last patch in the song(set) will keep it from changing to the next set accidentally/

  • by kyled871,

    kyled871 kyled871 May 10, 2016 3:07 PM in response to daFrimpster
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    May 10, 2016 3:07 PM in response to daFrimpster

    Close, but all that does is delay a patch change while the keyboardist is holding down a note.

  • by shattre,

    shattre shattre May 11, 2016 2:07 PM in response to kyled871
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    May 11, 2016 2:07 PM in response to kyled871

    This ties in with a larger complaint of mine, which is that there is no really good breakdown of a "multi-patch song". Sets are just folders, they don't really much much in the way of separation from the rest of the setlist. I wish one could set it up so that each Set has it's own numbering of program changes (1 goes to first patch in set, 2: second, and so on). Next/Previous is a very unsophisticated way of navigating patches in more complex songs.

     

    In short, I just have "One patch Per song", but the individual Channel Strips are set to receive from different Midi channels. So if I have a piano(1) on the verse, and strings(2) on the chorus, I just change from midi channel 1 to 2. I can even setup complex splits and have some patches play on multiple channels, and I get to stay ALL within one self-contained patch. The only problem is that if you switch channels while a key is held down, you get a stuck note. To combat this, I wrote a little Max/MSP app (called "Channel Cycler") that controls the signal flow and understands which channel each note originated from, and delivers the noteoff on the correct channel. It took a little time setting up, but it's SO much more bulletproof than trying to jump around to different patches. I even have a foot pedal that rotates through my channels (virtual setups), and responds to Program Change commands on my board. So now I have access to up to 6 "Virtual Setups" that I create within each patch. I play with one board like I have 6!