simonllangollen

Q: Does aperture work OK with El Capitain?

I'm reluctant to upgrade to El Capitain in case Aperture does not work OK and I lose my library or other functions.

I'm on OS 10.8.5. and twitter no longer works properly.

Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on May 10, 2016 11:27 PM

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Q: Does aperture work OK with El Capitain?

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 11, 2016 2:07 AM in response to simonllangollen
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    May 11, 2016 2:07 AM in response to simonllangollen

    There are more and more issues with Aperture. Aperture 3.6 is running on El Capitan,  but the minor bugs keep accumulating.

    • When brushing adjustments, the position can be slightly off, one pixel or so.
    • The thumbnails in list view are upside down.  Re: Aperture and El Capitan OSX
    • If you add a Curves adjustment the straighten adjustment will not be visible in the exported images. See: straight
    • The link to the plug-in page does no longer work in the Aperture menu, but that is the same for all versions.

     

    And you can no longer order print products from Aperture. Apple stopped the support for Print products from Aperture completely, in any version of Aperture.

     

    Upgrade only to El Capitan, if you are sure you can update Aperture to version 3.6 - you can only update AppStore versions of Aperture- It needs to be showing on your Purchases tab at the App Store.

     

    See this link:  Updating to Aperture 3.6 After the Release of Photos

  • by A lu' Dicu,Solvedanswer

    A lu' Dicu A lu' Dicu May 12, 2016 5:05 AM in response to léonie
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    May 12, 2016 5:05 AM in response to léonie

    I don't understand ... why Apple make digital camera RAW compatibility update all the time if not stil have Professional Application like Aperture ... now is Photos..

    I'm ironic of course, I know why ... but just I ask ...

     

    Apple ... "we want Aperture back" ...

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 12, 2016 1:15 AM in response to A lu' Dicu
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    May 12, 2016 1:15 AM in response to A lu' Dicu

    The RAW support has been available for iPhoto too, it is intended to support professional cameras, not necessarily only professional users.  But I would really like to see a new professional Apple application for photos, comparable to Aperture. After all, there are still professional applications for music and video, why not for photos. There are more users taking photos than users making music or videos.

  • by bws5,Helpful

    bws5 bws5 May 15, 2016 2:45 AM in response to simonllangollen
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    May 15, 2016 2:45 AM in response to simonllangollen

    I run Aperture 3.6 with OS 10.11.4 (El Capitan) on an iMac and with OS 10.10.5 (Yosemite) on a MacBookPro. I find significant differences such that I much prefer to work on the MacBook.

     

    (1) with Yosemite you can select a set of images and add a keyword to all of them at once, either by dragging the word from the Keywords list or by clicking the word on the Keyword Control at the bottom of the screen. Or from a selection in the Metadata menubar.

     

    With El Capitan I only can add a word to one image at a time with this method, no matter how many are selected. What I have to do is use the menubar pulldown Metadata / Batch Change and, under Keywords, type in what I want to add

     

    (2) with Yosemite I can plug in an SDCard from my camera and be asked to import all the photos on it. They will be broken into sets by date.

     

    With El Capitan the card will be recognized, but only the last dozen or so images will be recognized. If I have more than that small number of photos I must drag the icon of the photo folder onto the upper lefte of the Aperture window. All the photos will be imported, but in a single project. I have to separate the dates, one by one, by creating a succession of new projects.

     

    These are not showstoppers for me, but they are sufficiently annoying and time consuming, compared with what I was used to, that I would recommend not upgrading to El Capitan.

     

    I had thought to create a Yosemite startup drive, an external drive that had Yosemite on it, so that I could run Aperture on the larger-screen iMac. but the installer I have will not run on the iMac and the Macbook says the installer is damaged. The Apple App store knows I have downloaded the installer, so neither Mac can redownload it.

     

    I cannot figure any way to get an external drive running Yosemite that I could boot from when I want to work wotjn  Aperture on my iMac.

     

    Hence my advice against upgrading to El Capitan if you use Aperture.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 14, 2016 11:05 PM in response to bws5
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    May 14, 2016 11:05 PM in response to bws5

    That are indeed annoying differences. i do not experience them on my MacBook Pros and the iMac with E Capitan. Could you check these settings on your iMac so we can compare results?

    (1) with Yosemite you can select a set of images and add a keyword to all of them at once, either by dragging the word from the Keywords list or by clicking the word on the Keyword Control at the bottom of the screen. Or from a selection in the Metadata menubar.

    Both is working well for me on el Capitan OS X 10.11.4. What you are describing can be caused by having the Primary Only Flag enabled. what you are describing is typical for having the flag "primary Only" enabled.

    Then keywords will only be applied to the Primary selection.  Check your on your iMac, if "Edit > primary Only" is active. Disable it.

    See this link:  Keywords or ratings are applied only to one of the selected images - why?

    (2) with Yosemite I can plug in an SDCard from my camera and be asked to import all the photos on it. They will be broken into sets by date.

     

    With El Capitan the card will be recognized, but only the last dozen or so images will be recognized. I

    I have not seen this when importing.  Have you checked the Import Presets in the Import window, if the preferences are different from the preferences on your Yosemite machine, i.e. "Don't import duplicates" and the settings for "Raw&Jpeg" pairs?

     

    If your Aperture installion is behaving like the preferences had been set differently, but they are not, you may have corrupted preferences files. Then deleting the presets or preferences files may help. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201289

    but the installer I have will not run on the iMac and the Macbook says the installer is damaged. The Apple App store knows I have downloaded the installer, so neither Mac can redownload it.

    If you need to reinstall from the App Store, you have to ensure that Spotlight does not see Aperture as installed on your Mac.

    Temporarily drag the Aperture application to the Trash, but do not empty the Trash, so you can put it back.  This is just meant to fool Spotlight. Then restart the AppStore.  Now open the fourth tab of the App Store "Purchases". Sign in with your AppleID, if Aperture does not show in your Purchases History. You should now be seeing an Install button instead of "installed" and be able to download again.

    But you could also simply copy the Aperture application from your MacBook to your iMac. Aperture does no longer need an installer. The application is self contained.

  • by simonllangollen,

    simonllangollen simonllangollen May 15, 2016 2:49 AM in response to bws5
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    May 15, 2016 2:49 AM in response to bws5

    Thanks - this really helps - I'm still on 10..8.5 on a MaBook pro and all has worked well for many years..

    only problem is Twitter not working on older version of Safari..

    Disappointed with Apple support trying to upgrade Aperture to 3.6 (which I would have to do for El Capitan).

    AppStore people refer me to AppleStore or IT Support who have no e mail!

    Reluctant to keep repeating myself over the phone...

    Probably stay as I am