Diana.McCall

Q: Unpersoning

I just had a remarkable experience. Someone posted a rambling, but not offensive, reply to a bunch of old threads on a certain topic. I noticed that these threads had updated again, and looked to see that the posts were gone. (The threads were not "branched to a new discusion", as we sometimes see.) And the poster has vanished from "people". I was following one of the threads, so I have his exact handle in my email. The poster was actually the OP in one of the threads, a few months ago, so it's not like he just popped up to post the reply. So it looks like someone can be unpersoned if he or she steps too far over the line. Maybe he's just doing time out for a while. Amazing.

Apple TV (4th generation), tvOS 9.2

Posted on May 16, 2016 7:19 AM

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  • by ChitlinsCC,Helpful

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC May 16, 2016 7:59 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    May 16, 2016 7:59 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    What you describe is the result of Host actions against SPAMmers -

    • posts go POOF
    • thread is "bumped" because of activity
    • "SPAMmer" is banned (this should not affect their Profile page but likely will have their "online visibility" set to OFF so that People search returns no result)

    If you want us to reproduce your observations, you will need to "publish" the username

     

    - wouldn't be " worldbygeorge " would it?

    screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 09-47-30.png

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall May 16, 2016 8:05 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    May 16, 2016 8:05 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Thanks. Since you ask, it's scott091. And when I clicked on his handle in the email, it opened his profile, just as you suggest. So he's not gone, just not searchable, which made me think he was gone. He only joined in April so I doubt that he's a major contributor. I guess posting the same (almost, each differed slightly) reply in over 10 threads, mostly long OBE, was taken as spamming. Probably just trying to be very helpful.

     

    Looking in his profile, several threads are identified, with the note "There was a reply here but it was deleted by its author". Perhaps not exactly true.

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC May 16, 2016 8:15 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    May 16, 2016 8:15 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    Diana.McCall wrote:

     

    1. Thanks.
    2. Since you ask, it's scott091. And when I clicked on his handle in the email, it opened his profile, just as you suggest.
    3. So he's not gone, just not searchable, which made me think he was gone.
    4. He only joined in April so I doubt that he's a major contributor. I guess posting the same (almost, each differed slightly) reply in over 10 threads, mostly long OBE, was taken as spamming. Probably just trying to be very helpful.
    1. You're welcome
    2. Yep. MAY be banned, maybe not - no way for us to know
    3. The user may have set his own preference (see setting location in image below)
    4. That'll do it every time. Some folks "try too hard"?

    screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 10-01-23.png

    As with many "labels" is AppleJiveWare, they retain their original "name" from JiveSoftware but have a much different "function" than it would appear... in many forum software, there is a "list" displayed of users "who are *ONLINE* in the same place as you are", forum or thread - here it means merely that you are not searchable. You can test this about yourself, as I just did

    screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 10-11-27.png

     

    I have seen the message to which you refer RARELY, and think it is a "glitch" - it would be normal in JiveSoftware, but AppleJiveWare is all about "no explanation - it just IS"

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair May 16, 2016 8:26 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    May 16, 2016 8:26 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    Diana.McCall wrote:

     

    Thanks. Since you ask, it's scott091. And when I clicked on his handle in the email, it opened his profile, just as you suggest. So he's not gone, just not searchable, which made me think he was gone. He only joined in April so I doubt that he's a major contributor. I guess posting the same (almost, each differed slightly) reply in over 10 threads, mostly long OBE, was taken as spamming. Probably just trying to be very helpful.

     

    Looking in his profile, several threads are identified, with the note "There was a reply here but it was deleted by its author". Perhaps not exactly true.

    That sounds very much as if his account has been deactivated. We will never really know why.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa May 16, 2016 8:42 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    May 16, 2016 8:42 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    FWIW, I won't be found with a search because I have my preferences set not to show the date I joined. That is the (or at least one of the) reasons you can't find someone.

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair May 16, 2016 8:49 AM in response to babowa
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    May 16, 2016 8:49 AM in response to babowa

    babowa wrote:

     

    FWIW, I won't be found with a search because I have my preferences set not to show the date I joined. That is the (or at least one of the) reasons you can't find someone.

    You can still be searched for.

     

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  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 May 16, 2016 8:51 AM in response to babowa
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    May 16, 2016 8:51 AM in response to babowa

    More likely it is online visibility > off.

     

    Or would be!

     

    tt2

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC May 16, 2016 8:57 AM in response to babowa
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    May 16, 2016 8:57 AM in response to babowa

    I was unable to reproduce your online-visible result by merely changing MY Join Date to [Yourself] > [Save]

    screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 10-49-34.png

    I think if you check your Preferences page, near the bottom, you may find the "Online Visibility" switch is screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 10-55-51.png

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC May 16, 2016 9:07 AM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    May 16, 2016 9:07 AM in response to Meg St._Clair

    Aren't you the clever girl!

    I wonder how many search engines are running around here?

    screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 11-02-53.png

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 May 16, 2016 9:18 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    May 16, 2016 9:18 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Needs to be off if you want to hide. I suspect right now it is on.

     

    tt2

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC May 16, 2016 9:24 AM in response to turingtest2
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    May 16, 2016 9:24 AM in response to turingtest2

    I know, amigo... I "tested" both before posting as the ToU mandates

    • Switch ON + [Yourself] show date joined  = found in People page search
    • Switch OFF + [Everyone] show date joined = NOT found in People page search
  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 May 16, 2016 9:27 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    May 16, 2016 9:27 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    Testing on yourself might be inconclusive. Right now I cannot find you with people search, but I think it is online visibility, not date joined visibility, which controls that.

     

    CCC wrote:

    I think if you check your Preferences page, near the bottom, you may find the "Online Visibility" switch is screenshot-discussions apple com 2016-05-16 10-55-51.png

    And I think that if our colleague checks right now they will find that it is ToggleOn.png

     

     

    tt2

  • by ChitlinsCC,

    ChitlinsCC ChitlinsCC May 16, 2016 9:30 AM in response to turingtest2
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    May 16, 2016 9:30 AM in response to turingtest2

    true... but that is the only thing one can test without "collaborating"

    As it happens, in testing, I turned the Switch OFF and closed the TAB WITHOUT saving - yet the OFF attribute was set as the Preference - it is now back ON - try me again - BTW, I did NOT hit the [Save] twanger on the Prefs page

     

    Why have a save button if merely flipping the switch does the job?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 May 16, 2016 9:32 AM in response to ChitlinsCC
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    May 16, 2016 9:32 AM in response to ChitlinsCC

    This is Jive, why have one way to do something when you can have three?

     

    tt2

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