Nabil Antoun

Q: i don't have the "OSX El Capitan installer" in my apps !

I don't have the OSX El Capitan Installer in my application file.

 

Is that normal if not how comme and what can i do to fie that ?

 

Thanks

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2012), OS X El Capitan (10.11.5), MacBook Pro9,2

Posted on May 30, 2016 1:32 AM

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Q: i don't have the "OSX El Capitan installer" in my apps !

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  • by chroot,

    chroot chroot May 30, 2016 1:34 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 1:34 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    Did you already install OS X El Capitan on the computer?  The installer, /Applications/Install OS X El Capitan.app, deletes automatically after upgrading.  If you wish to create a bootable installer it needs to be downloaded again from the App Store.

  • by Nabil Antoun,

    Nabil Antoun Nabil Antoun May 30, 2016 1:45 AM in response to chroot
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    May 30, 2016 1:45 AM in response to chroot

    Hi,

     

    yes i have installed OSX El Capitan and have updated to 10.11.5.

     

    So if i understand your reply, it is normal that i don't have the installer any more...

     

    Yes i would like to have a bootable installer on an spare disk.

     

    thanks

  • by chroot,

    chroot chroot May 30, 2016 1:53 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 1:53 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    Go to the App Store and download El Capitan from the Purchased tab.

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer May 30, 2016 1:57 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 1:57 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    After you get another new copy of El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 installer,

    you could read about how to make bootable copies, on other disks.

    See the menu in this page; the product runs free, yet is donationware.

     

    http://diskmakerx.com/

     

    Perhaps it may be useful. There are other ways including a clone on

    an external enclosed hard drive, for example.

     

    Good luck !

  • by Nabil Antoun,

    Nabil Antoun Nabil Antoun May 30, 2016 2:33 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    May 30, 2016 2:33 AM in response to K Shaffer

    to Shaker & chroot,

     

    this is a crazy situation :

     

    I have 10.11.5 why does the solution forces me to reload it ?

     

    After this new download i would again loose the installer since it desapeers after installation !

     

    Is Apple just forcing the use of Apple Store just for the sake of depending on them ?

    Since i have the right to download El Capitan, why not just let he installer in the apps ...?

    This would save a lot of energy...

     

    But maybe i am get out of the technical aspects and getting close to ecology

     

    thanks to both of you....

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer May 30, 2016 2:59 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 2:59 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    Since the item is no longer in your computer, you need to have it (again) in order to proceed in this path.

    You can make a bootable copy using the information in previous noted link(s) one of those ways is with

    DiskMaker X, a free utility; the other way is more technical, as specified in the Support article.

     

    • DiskMaker X - does not require a command-line to use:

    http://diskmakerx.com/

     

    • Create a bootable installer for OS X - Apple Support - requires use of terminal or 'command-line' to use

     

    If you want a duplicate of your present running OS X including applications, user accounts, and etc, you could 'make a bootable clone' on a local hard drive that has correct formatting to support OS X booting (same as the one in the computer) and this could be an external drive or a spare internal drive.

     

    There are a few good or well known clone utilities, downloadable from their maker's sites:

     

    (The First one says you can make a clone, using a basic version, free; Second says they

    will let you trial use theirs 30-days. Both have a good history of working with Mac OSX.)

     

    • SuperDuper -- from Shirt-Pocket.com:

    http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html

     

    • Carbon Copy Cloner -- from Bombich software:

    http://bombich.com/

     

    The resulting clone could be made on an external USB flash drive; or on an externally enclosed self-powered drive that has fast connections so it could run the computer almost as fast as one installed inside the computer. The bus speeds are faster usually than external cable speeds, generally. Thunderbolt2, USB3 and some other options exist with an external enclosure of reputable quality. The better models run on their own AC power adapter and not computer data-port power.

     

    examples: https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/external-storage

     

    In any event... there is a hardware solution, that creates new options in use, backup, & troubleshooting.

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by Nabil Antoun,

    Nabil Antoun Nabil Antoun May 30, 2016 3:13 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    May 30, 2016 3:13 AM in response to K Shaffer

    K Shaffer,

     

    thanks,

     

    the strige thing is that the OSX installer is a one shot usage.

    it could remain in the apps after usage. This would save reloading....

     

    Will the reload of El Capitan erase my disk ?

    i do use Time machine

  • by Esquared,

    Esquared Esquared May 30, 2016 3:56 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 3:56 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    the strige thing is that the OSX installer is a one shot usage.

    it could remain in the apps after usage. This would save reloading....

     

    Will the reload of El Capitan erase my disk ?

    i do use Time machine

     

    If it stayed on the disk, everyone would complain about the waste of disk space...

     

    A new download will not erase your disk.

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer May 30, 2016 3:58 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 3:58 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    The new download of the Installer, should not automatically try to install... See details

    in this older thread (in a reply by Kappy.) Get any suggested software direct from maker.

     

    Keeping OS X Installer for Later (re) use:

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/24458817#24458817

     

    You can download ahead of time, and leave any available OS X installer, in App folder.

    It will disappear after it is installed. (A second installer would not disappear right away

    but should be acted upon as suggested -- use DiskMaker X -- to create bootable install

    that can be saved on an external device.)

     

    The time of day (early AM for me, near 3 AM here, is the end of a long day) is working

    against some better ideas or quality in rendering them here. The thread above is from

    a few years ago, but the basics are sound.

     

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 May 30, 2016 4:00 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 4:00 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    Nabil Antoun wrote:

     

    K Shaffer,

     

    thanks,

     

    the strige thing is that the OSX installer is a one shot usage.

    it could remain in the apps after usage. This would save reloading....

     

    Will the reload of El Capitan erase my disk ?

    i do use Time machine

     

    No. It is just a file download. It will create a "Install OS X El Capitan" file in the Applications folder. It won't change anything else.

     

    The installer uses some 6GB of space on your disk. Most users just know enough to click and install the software.

    It can be redownloaded if necessary, so it seems to me a sensible decision to let the installer delete itself.

    Once we know that (and it has been like this since OS X became a download only a few years back), it is a simple matter to make a copy *before* letting the installation proceed; or quite simply download it again.

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer May 30, 2016 4:07 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    May 30, 2016 4:07 AM in response to K Shaffer

    • How to make your own bootable OS X 10.11 El Capitan USB install drive (from your download installer)

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/how-to-make-your-own-bootable-os-x-10-11-el -capitan-usb-install-drive/

     

    Since the time is after 3AM, I'm very tired...

    Hopefully you can save the effort next time by having learned, better late...

  • by Nabil Antoun,Solvedanswer

    Nabil Antoun Nabil Antoun May 30, 2016 4:33 AM in response to K Shaffer
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    May 30, 2016 4:33 AM in response to K Shaffer

    thank you so much Shaffer, have a good rest.

     

    You made me understand several things

     

    Bye

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 30, 2016 4:36 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 30, 2016 4:36 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    Nabil Antoun wrote:

     

    to Shaker & chroot,

     

    this is a crazy situation :

     

    I have 10.11.5 why does the solution forces me to reload it ?

     

    After this new download i would again loose the installer since it desapeers after installation !

     

    Is Apple just forcing the use of Apple Store just for the sake of depending on them ?

    Since i have the right to download El Capitan, why not just let he installer in the apps ...?

    This would save a lot of energy...

     

    But maybe i am get out of the technical aspects and getting close to ecology

     

    thanks to both of you...

    Because you used it already, just download another one and don't install it this time.

     

    Not every one wants a 6+GB file that they have already used in their applications folder

  • by chroot,Helpful

    chroot chroot May 31, 2016 12:52 AM in response to Nabil Antoun
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    May 31, 2016 12:52 AM in response to Nabil Antoun

    In the future you can copy the installer app to a flash drive or copy it somewhere else on the hard drive such as your user's home folder.  After installation you will then retain a copy for future use without having to download again.

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