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by nick-without-a-name,Jun 6, 2016 10:17 AM in response to JAGUK
nick-without-a-name
Jun 6, 2016 10:17 AM
in response to JAGUK
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Servers Enterprise@JAGUK: I also have tried Cloud Station. I think it's great for soho environments. But it lacks one of the two reasons I use Homesync for: making it possible to use today computer A and the next day computer B.
Sure, we all know network homefolders. But since it puts really heavy I/O load on the server disks, I don't use that anymore. It has become too slow for current systems.
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Jun 6, 2016 10:48 AM in response to nick-without-a-nameby sdf_iain,I didn't see any other files in my list of skipped files that even looked like they would be related to the Keychain.
However, Apple did fix a bug I'd reported involving Parental Control time limits, so filing a radar might actually get it fixed.
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Jun 9, 2016 2:53 AM in response to nick-without-a-nameby JAGUK,Hey, very true but for the very odd occasion that we actually use that feature of mobile type accounts it seems like we're having to deal with a ridiculous situation that annoys the **** out of every single user, every single day.
If I'm thinking along these lines then there must be other admins having similar thoughts. It's just crazy that Apple hasn't openly attempted to address this.
However, I'll give sdf_iain's suggestion a go as I've tried every other potential solution over the years!! I'll report back if it has any effect whatsoever.
Justin
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Jun 9, 2016 7:36 AM in response to Peter Brudererby appreciate,Click on go > hold option key > library > keychain > select all contents of keychain folder by key board short cut command +A , then delete them ( command + delete ) into the trash .
Restart from apple logo and empty the trash , by doing so fresh contents will be recreated in keychain folder .
When safari is opened this pop will go away .
Sometimes in very rare cases keychain folder is deleted into the trash , then restart from apple logo and empty the trash , after few minutes a new fresh key chain folder is recreated once again automatically .
Suppose we directly delete from trash a pop will be there skip , would like to continue .
So , it is COMPULSORY to restart from apple logo , then empty the trash ( note if we skip the step and directly browse ) corrupted data will be running in the background )
Note : now key chain is empty and all passwords are gone . if you go in airport utility via spotlight , click on base station it will prompt for wireless network password , enter it .
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Jun 9, 2016 7:43 AM in response to appreciateby JAGUK,Hi appreciate,
Unfortunately this has been posted in here before and only temporarily fixes the issue (one, maybe two reboots).
Justin
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by nick-without-a-name,Jun 9, 2016 7:59 AM in response to Peter Bruderer
nick-without-a-name
Jun 9, 2016 7:59 AM
in response to Peter Bruderer
Level 1 (12 points)
Servers Enterprise@Justin: Please note that peforming automatic background sync of (Preferences)files can lead to loads of errors presented to the enduser. Home Sync trips over every file that is open and reports this to the enduser. In my experience endusers have no clue what to do with the error and get anoyed.
@appreciate: as per ASCP training documentation: it is not recommended to manually trash Keychain files (OS X support Essentials 10.11 page 232). Instead, use Keychain access. Having said that: It is common practise to trash the Keychain files.
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Jun 9, 2016 8:39 AM in response to nick-without-a-nameby JAGUK,Hey nick-without-a-name,
Thanks for the continued replies.
Thanks for the info... you're the first person to mention this so I will remove the background sync setting. Is this the same for Home sync also?
I have historically tested having preference sync completely off but it doesn't have any effect on the homesync (and messages) keychain popups that we all get annoyed with on a daily basis!
Cheers, Justin
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Jun 9, 2016 9:17 AM in response to JAGUKby nick-without-a-name,Hi Justin,
Preferences Sync is meant to run at login and/or logout while the user is not affecting these files. The optimum setting is to sync the whole homefolder during login and /or logout. Since this takes too long from most users, Preferences Sync is meant to log the user in and out as fast as possible. Home Sync could be used while the user is logged in.
In my pratise however, I see that background sync during the day cause all kinds of error messages. You can setup additional rules by importing the Managed Client app (/System/Library/CoreServices) into Workgroup Manager to supress errors. However, I found this not working well enough.
I am not sure if you also can do this using configuration profiles.
So my current default setup is this:
Preferences sync: on log in and log out
Home sync on log out and manually.
But this all has no effect to the original problem of this thread.
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by JAGUK,Jun 9, 2016 10:03 AM in response to nick-without-a-name
JAGUK
Jun 9, 2016 10:03 AM
in response to nick-without-a-name
Level 1 (33 points)
Servers EnterpriseHey,
Thanks for the reply and understand what you're saying.
I'm happy with Homesync itself and the control it gives us, it's just these **** popups that drive everyone crazy!
I wonder if these popups would exist if we switched to using local user accounts (still with profiles and homesync etc). It's not actually something that I have really tested to be completely honest.
When I joined the company we were already using mobile accounts but to be honest we don't really need to be using this for the majority of users.
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Jun 9, 2016 12:02 PM in response to JAGUKby sdf_iain,I want to be very clear, I'm only using HomeSync to manage our home network and I may have moved on to some other issue rather than actually figuring out how to resolve this issue. I would strongly advise everybody to file a radar, if we don't complain Server won't receive the attention it deserves.
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by nick-without-a-name,Jun 10, 2016 2:35 AM in response to sdf_iain
nick-without-a-name
Jun 10, 2016 2:35 AM
in response to sdf_iain
Level 1 (12 points)
Servers EnterpriseI filled a bugreport on Juy 8th 2015 (bug 21721161). It is still open.
I have no idea whether or not someone has read the report, status is 'open'.
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by nick-without-a-name,Jun 13, 2016 6:55 AM in response to Peter Bruderer
nick-without-a-name
Jun 13, 2016 6:55 AM
in response to Peter Bruderer
Level 1 (12 points)
Servers EnterpriseDid anyone try these steps on an affected computer?
- Enter Keychain access
- Change the password of the login.keychain to something different than the user password --> this breaks the synchronization of the user account password and login.keychain password.
- Quit Keychain access
- Log out the current user all together
- Log back in.
- Launch an application that has information stored in the login.keychain
- Note that you are asked to enter the keychain password.
- Go back to Keychain access and change the login.keychain password back to the user password. --> this should relink synchronization of the user password an login.keychain password.
Also there should be an option in Keychain --> Preferences --> First Aid --> 'Synchronize login keychain password with account'.
However, on my computer this 'First Aid' tab is nowhere to be found. I cannot find Keychain first aid anymore.
Source: OSX support Essentials 10.11 training (ISBN 013442820X) chapters 7 and 8.
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by JAGUK,Jun 17, 2016 7:02 AM in response to nick-without-a-name
JAGUK
Jun 17, 2016 7:02 AM
in response to nick-without-a-name
Level 1 (33 points)
Servers Enterprisepretty sure that I'd tried this before but tried again and unfortunately had zero effect on the homesync popup
I don't know why but Keychain First Aid was removed from 10.10
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by nick-without-a-name,Jun 17, 2016 7:14 AM in response to JAGUK
nick-without-a-name
Jun 17, 2016 7:14 AM
in response to JAGUK
Level 1 (12 points)
Servers EnterpriseNow you mention that, I remember!
Well, that means there is a real glitch in the MacOSX Support Essentials 10.11 certification course book. The chapter about keychain management contains a section about syncing the keychain password with the local account. This section also contains a screenshot where the Preferences pane has three tabs, the middle one being 'First Aid'.

