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Q: El Capitan and missing volume control for speakers

I have just updated to OS 10.11 El Capitan. Upon successful completion of installation, my desktop speakers no longer have ANY volume control. I can not control the volume by the keyboard shortcuts on the keyboard nor by the volume control (which is now greyed out) in the menu bar. Note that I can select and use the USB speakers under the Sound portion of System Preferences, but I can not change the volume at all. Everything worked just fine BEFORE this update (which was a couple of hours ago). With the exception of the new OS, nothing else has changed on this computer.

 

Any thoughts on how I can correct this issue?

 

Mac Pro; 2 x 2.4 Quad Core; 14 GB RAM; OS 10.11 El Capitan

Speakers: Microsoft (yea, I know...) Digital Sound System 80

Posted on Sep 30, 2015 5:03 PM

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  • by c0sco,

    c0sco c0sco Apr 28, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Dave_K76
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    Apr 28, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Dave_K76

    Another "me too". Have a Fubar III amp, which shows as a "Burr_Brown Japan PCM2702" in the Sound preferences, and I get the "The selected device has no output controls" message. I just upgraded from 10.10.5 straight to 10.11.4 two days ago. Tried the PRAM and SMC resets, shutting down, removing cables, turning devices off, removing plist files, etc. No luck.

  • by Dave_K76,

    Dave_K76 Dave_K76 Apr 29, 2016 12:38 AM in response to c0sco
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    Apr 29, 2016 12:38 AM in response to c0sco

    Hi,

    I solved the problem by investing in a small volume control device (Fostex PC-1e, about $25 on Amazon). Installed between the DAC and the speakers, it works very well.

  • by c0sco,

    c0sco c0sco Apr 29, 2016 3:36 PM in response to Dave_K76
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    Apr 29, 2016 3:36 PM in response to Dave_K76

    Good tip. That should help anyone stuck in a situation with no hardware volume knob. In my case, I have an amp with a volume knob, but I expect the software volume controls to work like they did in 10.8 - 10.10.

  • by davidiniveme,

    davidiniveme davidiniveme Apr 30, 2016 5:19 AM in response to c0sco
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    Mac OS X
    Apr 30, 2016 5:19 AM in response to c0sco

    same problem,... have a volume control, but no balance...

  • by davidiniveme,

    davidiniveme davidiniveme Apr 30, 2016 6:06 AM in response to c0sco
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    Mac OS X
    Apr 30, 2016 6:06 AM in response to c0sco

    have the same DAC and same problem... let me know if u found any joy... txs

  • by francon3,

    francon3 francon3 Jun 23, 2016 11:56 AM in response to foundryfire
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    Jun 23, 2016 11:56 AM in response to foundryfire

    Hi

    Select -Sysyem Preferences

               - Sound

               - Click on  Internal Microphone( which appears in window: Select a device for sound input

    Then tick box: Show Volumn in Menu bar

    And all should be well!!

  • by Adrian Bengtson,

    Adrian Bengtson Adrian Bengtson Jun 23, 2016 12:58 PM in response to francon3
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    Jun 23, 2016 12:58 PM in response to francon3

    No, that has nothing to do with the issue. Showing the volume in the menu bar is not a problem.

     

    The problem is that the volume can't be adjusted (greyed out, disabled) for certain USB DAC devices, something that worked before El Capitan.

  • by d_a_n1979,

    d_a_n1979 d_a_n1979 Jun 24, 2016 11:04 AM in response to Adrian Bengtson
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    Jun 24, 2016 11:04 AM in response to Adrian Bengtson

    Having this issue myself currently!  2012 i7 Mac Mini running El Capitan 


    Have a Nuforce USB DAC connected; can't control volume on my keyboard, it's greyed out and the settings state 'The selected device has no output'! 


    However, this has worked recently with a NAD D1050 DAC via USB and KEF X300A speakers, also connected via USB! 


    What's the issue and why has it cropped up all of a sudden?!


    Thanks

  • by cpage,

    cpage cpage Jun 24, 2016 12:36 PM in response to d_a_n1979
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    Mac OS X
    Jun 24, 2016 12:36 PM in response to d_a_n1979
    I just posted something that MIGHT help some of you.   https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7598666  Check your settings in the MIDI Audio Setting  Find the Application in Utilities.
  • by d_a_n1979,

    d_a_n1979 d_a_n1979 Jun 24, 2016 12:46 PM in response to cpage
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    Jun 24, 2016 12:46 PM in response to cpage

    Thanks; but of no use as this is being fed via USB and does exactly the same even trying your solutions!

  • by luowanxiang,

    luowanxiang luowanxiang Jul 2, 2016 2:57 PM in response to foundryfire
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    Mac OS X
    Jul 2, 2016 2:57 PM in response to foundryfire

    same problem.

    10.11.5; 2015 mbp 13 inch; 3.1g; 16g.

    i just bought a Sound Devices USBpre 2. first time everything looks fine but when i change volume with keyboard shortcut or volume control of softwares nothing happen. only the volume logo shows on screen was changing.

    second time without restart computer it turns gray as you guys experienced. but i can control volume through one of the softwares (KORG AudioGate 4)' own volume bar. not the others such as WaveLab Element 7. nor iTunes. in this case i can't choose this device from audio midi setting. its grey too.

    i tried add multiple devices setting on midi set up then i can choose the device. grey short cut key and no control from WaveLab.

    a lot of works are depend on it. terrible isn't it?

  • by luowanxiang,

    luowanxiang luowanxiang Jul 3, 2016 5:25 AM in response to foundryfire
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    Mac OS X
    Jul 3, 2016 5:25 AM in response to foundryfire
    me again. today's news is the master volume control in WaveLab works. laptop keys are still grey. i did nothing different to yesterday just restart again and do the same. anyone see this random thing? thanx!
  • by Ras Alexis,

    Ras Alexis Ras Alexis Sep 21, 2016 9:27 PM in response to foundryfire
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    Sep 21, 2016 9:27 PM in response to foundryfire

    Hi people , I had the same issue , found this app http://www.volumemixer-app.com/ . works with Sierra too.

    Hope it helps you. don't forget to mess with the settings of the app to auto select  on start which will be your default output device.

  • by craig.gordon,

    craig.gordon craig.gordon Sep 22, 2016 10:44 PM in response to foundryfire
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    Mac OS X
    Sep 22, 2016 10:44 PM in response to foundryfire

    Anyone had any luck with Sierra??

  • by mook33,

    mook33 mook33 Sep 23, 2016 1:20 AM in response to craig.gordon
    Level 1 (13 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 23, 2016 1:20 AM in response to craig.gordon

    A later update in El Capitan did fix usage for me (Creative X-Mod), and that functionality has carried over into Sierra. So, in my own case, yes -- the function is working again.

    I'd do a Time Machine backup, upgrade & see if it works for you. Then if not, you can revert back to your previous version. That's what I had done when Mavericks first released & functionality wasn't sticking & just had to wait for a while.

     

    Hope that helps!

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