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Q: Using Intel Mac Pro for art in 2017?

Hello, I've been working at home for almost 20 years now & recently I've transitioned into working at a studio with some other artists. I have a new iMac, but I also have a first generation Intel Mac Pro, 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 5 GB 667 MHz FB-DIMM that I would like to use as a second computer at home. I'm running OS X 10.7.5. All I will be using the home machine for is PhotoShop (and the internet). The larger .psd files I'm working on are approx 1 GB, and work speed is very slow- but it didn't used be! I'm wondering if I could get some speed back if I somehow downgraded back to an earlier version of the operating system and Photoshop?

 

I would greatly appreciate any help! I'm not the greatest with computers =)

Mac Pro 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon 5 GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on Jun 26, 2016 11:28 AM

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  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Jun 26, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Pneumacast
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    Jun 26, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Pneumacast

    5 GB of memory is really not enough for Photoshop. When running Photoshop how much swap is used as indicated in the Memory section of Activity Monitor. Also, what is CPU usage? Is it maxed out..

     

    Also disk access speed may be limiting. You can speed that up by either using an SSD in one of the drive bays or using a blade SSD or standard 2 1/2 inch SSD in a PCIe card..

    PCIe SSD on Mac Pro 1.1 (First Gen) ... faster than SATA SSD?

     

    The drive bays in all the silver tower Mac Pros are SATA II (3 GB/sec) when SATA III drive are 6 GB/sec. The PCIe cards that accept 2 1/2 inch SSD run the SSD at SATA III. Blade SSDs in a PCIe slow are even faster.

  • by Pneumacast,

    Pneumacast Pneumacast Jun 26, 2016 1:57 PM in response to lllaass
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    Jun 26, 2016 1:57 PM in response to lllaass

    Thank you SO MUCH for the kind response, I think you may have really helped me out here. I was unfamiliar with the Activity Monitor, but from what I can tell, the memory is being entirely eaten up by PhotoShop. The CPU part is a bit fuzzy for me, so I attached screen captures of both readings:

     

    Memory.jpg

    CPU.jpg

    In regards to the SSD or SSD in a PCle card, forgive my lack of knowledge- but does this involve replacing the hard drive? Or is this simply installing an additional drive?

     

    Thanks again for the help!

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Jun 26, 2016 2:33 PM in response to Pneumacast
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    Jun 26, 2016 2:33 PM in response to Pneumacast

    The memory windows does show that increasing memory will help. Now it uses (page ins and page outs, and swap) the HD as memory which is very slow.

    Thus, increasing memory will speed up Photoshop and other apps that require a lot of memory

     

    The CPU usage is low and not a bottle neck.

     

    You can get a simple carrier for a 2 1/2 inch SSD and mount it on a HD sled and use that.

    http://www.amazon.com/Icy-Dock-EZConvert-2-5-Inch-Converter/dp/B002Z2QDNE/

    Based on the prices of 2 1/2 inch SSD today that would be a worthwhile investment.

    A PCIe based SSD will increase disk access more but is more costly but may not be worth the cost o such an old Mac

  • by Pneumacast,

    Pneumacast Pneumacast Jun 26, 2016 3:54 PM in response to lllaass
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    Jun 26, 2016 3:54 PM in response to lllaass

    Alright, I will get some additional memory! I'm familiar with how to install it, thank you!

     

    I think I would like to get the 2 1/2 SSD with the HD sled, but I'm confused - am I A) Replacing my existing spinning hard drive, or B) Adding the SSD so I have two drives in my Mac Pro? If the answer is B) - Since an SSD is faster, I assume it's where the operating system & applications should be stored. Do I need to back up my work, return it all to factory settings and finally reinstall everything on the SSD?

     

    Will an SSD work with only certain operating systems?

     

    Would this SSD be sufficient?:

    https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-2-5-Inch-MZ-75E250B/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_ 1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466981567&sr=1-1&k…

     

    Really appreciate your help! Thnx!

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Jun 27, 2016 1:16 AM in response to Pneumacast
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    Jun 27, 2016 1:16 AM in response to Pneumacast

    Yes the Samsung 859 EVO is good. I have several of those.

    Your SSD boot drive should be:

    User Tip: Creating a lean, fast Boot Drive

  • by Randy Decker,

    Randy Decker Randy Decker Jun 27, 2016 2:35 AM in response to Pneumacast
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    Jun 27, 2016 2:35 AM in response to Pneumacast

    I installed a PCIe Accelsior drive in my Mac Pro. I know that it would dramatically increase performance for you. https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc/mac-pro/2009-2012

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Jun 27, 2016 6:22 AM in response to Randy Decker
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    Jun 27, 2016 6:22 AM in response to Randy Decker

    Pneumacast  said they have the original (2006/2007) Mac Pro.

    The  PCIe Accelsior drive is not fast in those Mac pros. OSC says:

    2006-2007 Mac Pro. These models utilize PCIe 1.0 slot which cannot be configured (even with the Expansion Utility in OS X) to address Accelsior E2 as anything but as a first generation one-lane card. As a result, Accelsior_E2 performance will be limited to 190-200MB/s data rates. If maximum data rate speed up to 285MB/s is desired, we recommend the installation of a 2.5" OWC Mercury SSD in an open Mac Pro drive bay.

     

    https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/SSDPHWE2R120/