sirg74

Q: security and hackers !!!

Dear Apple!

 

My situation is confusing me a lot. I ask your help and assistance!

 

I want to state that I’m very loyal Apple customer, all your devices are must have for me - I’m composer and sound producer in wide-screen movies and commercials. I’m storing loads of confidential copyright protected materials before original release date.

I was producing sound for great russian movies: Legend 17, Elena, Leviathan (Golden Globe nomination), Equipage etc.

I’m avid traveller, and I’m making most of my work on iPad, Macbook Air and even iPhone. I was very sure that my content is protected. If movie reach network before release it’s always big scandal.

 

23 May 2016 I bought iPhone 6s 64 Gb Grey from Moscow’s vendor re:Store. 15 June in Barcelona this iPhone was stolen. 30 minutes later I made screen notification via Find iPhone and blocked it. Until 03 July telephone was  seen on iCloud  in my devices, but without location. As I saw it was not used in networks. 03 July I received SMS:

 

"Dear Sergey ****,

Your ID (ID) was used iMessage on Jason 's iPhone 6s .

IP: ****

Device OS: iOS 9.3.2

If you believe some person accessed your account, you can reset your account by going to (link)

The link will expire in 12H.

Service Pin :5623-8593-2234»

 

Then I clicked link and got into iCloud with my devices, stolen iPhone was also there. Then it disappeared forever. I made call to Apple (Operator: Snezhana, Code: 1167350602) and she told me that phone was hacked,  they got Apple ID password and cleared iPhone from my account, now iPhone is clean and not linked to account. So, it may be used and sold as their own legally bought phone. But my phone was protected by fingerprint and 6 digit password.

I want to ask how these guys got my password hacked in two weeks and unblocked fingerprint protected device? Then how they found very strong Apple ID password which was stored only in my mind? I’m very confused - I read before that Apple devices are unbeatable in security and linked to single user. We all remember FBI argument and how much they paid to Israeli security firm to unblock it. But my example is about very easy hack never seen before. Please update me on situation and what can we do.

 

Sergey ****

 

Best regards.


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iPhone 6s, iOS 9, security and hackers

Posted on Jul 12, 2016 9:03 AM

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  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Jul 11, 2016 9:35 AM in response to sirg74
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    Jul 11, 2016 9:35 AM in response to sirg74

    They got your password because you gave it to them.  That message was not from Apple but from a phishing scam artist.  Since you replied by going to the link, you gave them your login credentials.

     

    You need to reset your AppleID password immediately.  Nobody hacked your iPhone, they hacked your iCloud account.

  • by sirg74,

    sirg74 sirg74 Jul 11, 2016 9:41 AM in response to Michael Black
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    Jul 11, 2016 9:41 AM in response to Michael Black

    Oh my god! and now I can not do anything to block iphone??

  • by Ingo2711,

    Ingo2711 Ingo2711 Jul 11, 2016 9:50 AM in response to sirg74
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    Jul 11, 2016 9:50 AM in response to sirg74

    Sorry, but you are not talking to Apple here, we are all users, just like you.

    As for your stolen iPhone. Are you sure that the notification you have gotten has been legit? Usually when you access your Apple ID features from another computer or iDevice, you will be notified by mail, not by SMS service. If you followed the link and gave them the AppleID and new password, that's how they were able to "hack" your phone and set it up with another Apple ID of their own.

    The last time I logged in and out of iMessage on my Mac, Apple Support notified me via mail. There where no details about the IP address given, nor any link that will expire at some point in the future. The only link given was this one: https://appleid.apple.com.


  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Jul 11, 2016 9:51 AM in response to sirg74
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    Jul 11, 2016 9:51 AM in response to sirg74

    No, when you gave them your iCloud login information, they were then able to go in and remove the device from your list of tracked devices, and send it a remote erase beforehand.  They basically can do anything that you could do with your account.

     

    You need to go to https://appleid.apple.com/ and reset your AppleID password immediately, if you even can.  If you cannot, then try to regain control of it via https://iforgot.apple.com/password/verify/appleid or call Apple and tell them your AppleID has been compromised and you need help regaining control of the account.

     

    Your data on the iPhone itself would have been inacessible due to the screen lock.  But with your iCloud account login, they would have been able to remotely erase it, then remove it from your list of tracked devices and re-activate it for their own use.  Since they could sign in to iCloud as you, they could also have restored from your iCloud backup and sync'd any of your synchronized content.  Again, they could do anything that you could do with your iCloud account.

  • by sirg74,

    sirg74 sirg74 Jul 11, 2016 9:58 AM in response to Michael Black
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    Jul 11, 2016 9:58 AM in response to Michael Black

    Yes, i changed my paasword when got this sms. What do you think, hackers to got data in my iphone ? or after switch on the iphone was eresed?

  • by sirg74,

    sirg74 sirg74 Jul 11, 2016 10:17 AM in response to Ingo2711
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    Jul 11, 2016 10:17 AM in response to Ingo2711

    yes, i  understood. this is my mistake. i am fast went to link and didnt think, what this is sms  is not from apple. can i   send request to apple support to block phone or it is pointless? 

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Jul 11, 2016 10:22 AM in response to sirg74
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    Jul 11, 2016 10:22 AM in response to sirg74

    There is nothing Apple can do about it. Sorry.

  • by sirg74,

    sirg74 sirg74 Jul 11, 2016 10:31 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Jul 11, 2016 10:31 AM in response to KiltedTim

    but how they picked up the password in phone? there was an imprint and 6-digit password

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Jul 11, 2016 10:35 AM in response to sirg74
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    Jul 11, 2016 10:35 AM in response to sirg74

    You don't know that they did... All you know is that you gave them the credentials for your iCloud account, allowing them to remove the activation lock.

     

    It's likely that they don't care about your data at all. All they really wanted to do was wipe the phone and sell it. They have everything they need to be able to do that.

  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Jul 11, 2016 10:43 AM in response to sirg74
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    Jul 11, 2016 10:43 AM in response to sirg74

    They did not need the password to your phone at all.  Once they had your iCloud password they could login to your iCloud account in a web browser as you, execute a remote erase to the very device they had in their hands, then disable activation lock.  Then, they simply activate the device anew, sign in to iCloud as you and sync your contact and restore your backup to the now wiped clean device.

     

    You may wish to think about using 2-step verification so that your password is no longer the sole access code to your account - Frequently asked questions about two-step verification for Apple ID - Apple Support

     

    Your iCloud account integrity is the key, since it controls remote access to the phone as well as activation lock.  Once your iCloud account is compromised, the hackers can control your device.

     

    The one simple rule to follow is never, ever simply call a number in a message, follow a link in a message or give out your passcode to anyone, ever!  If you suspect an issue with your account, login to the appleID management web site yourself and check your account integrity, or call Apple and ask about it.  Always independently verify your own accounts through your normal account access portal or website.  And remember that Apple will never ask you for your AppleID password - never, under any circumstances (as clearly stated in their privacy legal documents section).

  • by sirg74,

    sirg74 sirg74 Jul 11, 2016 10:46 AM in response to Michael Black
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    Jul 11, 2016 10:46 AM in response to Michael Black

    2-step verification is good idea, i will do it. Thank you everybody for  help. I will be smarter...