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Q: Safari keeps crashing/freezing after install of El Capitan

After the install of El Capitan, Safari 9.0 keeps locking up and or crashing.

I have a Mac Book Pro 15'' 2.3 GHz i7, 4GB Memory, 500 GB HD, iOS 10.11

 

When using Safari, I will have class work up and YouTube or iTunes playing. Before El Capitan it would do those processes with out a problem. Now it seems to lock up, unable to refresh, unable to exit Safari. I have to force quit and shutdown to try and get control back. Occasionally even after the shut down it will still lock up.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2012), OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Oct 14, 2015 10:06 AM

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  • by Mainyehc,

    Mainyehc Mainyehc Jun 29, 2016 9:39 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Jun 29, 2016 9:39 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    Luís, I know I haven't described my troubleshooting process, but I could do without the condescension, thank you very much. Honestly, do you think a user who is willing (albeit bregudgingly) to Jailbreak his iPhone doesn't know not to use pre-release (nay, developer-bound) software in a professional environment? Of course I will do so from an external drive, when I am on vacation, and hammer Safari 10 Beta until I feel confident it doesn't crash my machine anymore (actually, now that I think of it, I may try the Safari 10 Beta for El Capitan instead, as that would be the best of both worlds). But thanks for the warning, anyway.

     

    For the record, my Mac was freezing with the then-current, stable release of Safari a few months ago, and I was already giving Safari Technology Preview a try back then, to no avail. I was, indeed, running El Capitan installed over an original Yosemite installation, so I did what any sensible Mac user would do in those circumstances: I erased and installed El Capitan, and manually copied all my data, forgoing any Time Machine and Migration Assistant shenanigans, just to be sure. And I used only plain Safari at first, just to give it yet another opportunity.

     

    Lo and below, the damned browser started freezing my Mac again after a while… It was only then when I went back to Safari Technology Preview, because what the heck. Nope, didn't work out either. I ended up using the memory sinkhole that Chrome has become, but still managed to have a stabler system; I'd rather deal with memory leaks than with irrecoverable crashes.

     

    What does that have to do with wanting to JB my iPhone? Does iCloud bookmark and tab syncing ring a bell? Do you know Opera, when logged in with an Opera account, does that, too (so does Chrome, but I value my privacy as well)? If I could only set it as my default browser on the iPhone, I would get a functional equivalent to Safari. So I believe this is very much on topic…

     

    Anyway, I'm not mad at you, but I am surely mad at Apple. This is an ooooold bug… And so is the bug (or database corruption, which will force me to reset playcounts and ratings *and* rebuild ALL my smart playlists from scratch) that prevents my iTunes Library from syncing properly (if at all) with my iPhone. Yes, I know it's a bit off-topic, but I am mad, and rightly so.

     

    – João

    [happily posted in Opera, btw]

  • by Dos,

    Dos Dos Jul 5, 2016 7:37 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Jul 5, 2016 7:37 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    I'm not sure if I am adding my comment in the correct place, but I too have been having random shutdowns and re-starts, but not just when using Safari.

    I have a iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015) and only just started having problems after the 10.11.4 update, the 10.11.5 update did not solve any problems, and in fact this is now happening 3 or 4 times a day. I could be using Safari as in a couple of minutes ago when I was trying to write this post and the computer froze and shutdown, or it could be completely idle with no apps open and I will come to use it and it will be dead. It also seems now to be dead every morning, even though I never shut it down, So definitely random. I must say that I am finding this so frustrating now, and was hoping for some sort of fix - how long do you wait? A £1500 brand new computer that is totally unreliable!

  • by nicksotgiu,

    nicksotgiu nicksotgiu Jul 5, 2016 9:58 AM in response to Dos
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    Jul 5, 2016 9:58 AM in response to Dos

    I was in the exact same boat as you.

    And I have almost the same model as you I think:
    iMac 5K Retina (late 2015)

    4GHz i7

    32 GB RAM

    AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4096 MB

     

    Since April It started the same issues you're having, around the same time I updated to OSX 10.11.4

    After months of taking my iMac to the Apple store and my reseller, talking with them to find a solution.
    I finally got my logic board replaced, it's been 3 days and still no crashes or reboots... (knocks on all the wood). 

     

    I did have to get real firm with people at Apple and my reseller.
    They treat you like a **** thief so be prepared for that.

     

    For everyone else with similar problems, I pretty sure this is not software related anymore.
    This has to be hardware related.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Nick

  • by Dos,

    Dos Dos Jul 5, 2016 12:47 PM in response to nicksotgiu
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    Jul 5, 2016 12:47 PM in response to nicksotgiu

    Hi Nick. Not sure if you got my reply, which I thought I had sent! I did think that  an update would solve the problem, but in fact the 10.11.5 update seems to have exacerbated the problem. I really didn't want to go down the route of taking it into an apple store, A- because there isn't one near me and B because from what I have read on this site, they haven't been able to solve the problem - even replacing the logic board! My brother has recently bought the same iMac and has had no problems whatsoever - possibly because it has slightly different hardware, so it seems that it is incompatible hardware that the update has interfered with. Thanks for your advice, and I will report back.

  • by alwayserik,

    alwayserik alwayserik Jul 8, 2016 10:53 AM in response to 49_FiveWindow
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    Jul 8, 2016 10:53 AM in response to 49_FiveWindow

    I have a similar issue. Mid-2014 MBP base model no dGPU.
    Usually for the first few hours of youtube browsing and watching videos etc. Nothing significant really happens. Then out of nowhere safari starts lagging up BAD!. also freezes happen when closing a tab? Then, if I continue watching a video or start watching a new video, it freezes my entire mac completely! I have to wait it out for half a minute before my mac becomes somewhat responsive again. However, from this stage, safari is on a freeze-unfreeze cycle. Not to mention web pages have some sort of loading cycle.. Like it would load the youtube homepage half way, then half a minute later it would load the rest of youtube homepage. Similarly with other websites. If I want to stop the freezing, I have to restart my mac. Force quitting and starting up safari anew does not fix anything...

  • by alwayserik,

    alwayserik alwayserik Jul 8, 2016 10:56 AM in response to alksv
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    Jul 8, 2016 10:56 AM in response to alksv

    Can confirm sporadic freezes in Safari when closing tabs with HTML5 video, namely YouTube. Remains unresponsive for 60-180 seconds, then lags and stutters until restarted. Clean installs, dirty installs, betas, releases – doesn't matter, it's there.

     

    OSX 10.11.5, rMBP15 Mid 2014, Iris Pro, Wipr content blocker, no Flash.

     

    Has been this way since the Yosemite days. Really annoying.

    I should have read the thread before replying. Exactly my situation. Exact same MBP. Exact same extension and no flash too!

  • by Bob Bujic,

    Bob Bujic Bob Bujic Jul 8, 2016 11:34 AM in response to alwayserik
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    Jul 8, 2016 11:34 AM in response to alwayserik

    I can offer my two cents solution: when Safari gets slower, try to clear History using Option key in order to Keep Web Data intact.

  • by alwayserik,

    alwayserik alwayserik Jul 8, 2016 2:45 PM in response to Bob Bujic
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    Jul 8, 2016 2:45 PM in response to Bob Bujic

    As stated in countless threads, this isn't a history or cache problem. Safari works perfectly fine until you either close a tab that had video playback, or you start playing a video etc. After you do so, the entire mac freezes up for half a minute or so, and then repeats and becomes worse if you keep navigating safari. Everyone here already tried straight forward things like disabling everything, clearing everything, restarting everything, reinstalling everything.. It only gets resolved with a reboot until it happens again.

  • by Adam F,

    Adam F Adam F Jul 9, 2016 10:43 AM in response to alwayserik
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    Jul 9, 2016 10:43 AM in response to alwayserik

    Just noting that Safari Technology Preview 8 doesn't do anything to solve the crashes.

     

    More time wasted.

     

    With regard to the "Remove All Website Data" suggestions...I've noticed that Twitter just constantly repopulates, even if I delete turn off WiFi, delete Twitter cookies, and turn of Twitter in my Internet Accounts prefs panel.

  • by higgsb0son,

    higgsb0son higgsb0son Jul 19, 2016 8:45 AM in response to 49_FiveWindow
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    Jul 19, 2016 8:45 AM in response to 49_FiveWindow

    This is just to confirm that 10.11.6 released yesterday does not fix the issue, which was of course to be expected.

  • by Bob Bujic,

    Bob Bujic Bob Bujic Jul 19, 2016 10:57 PM in response to higgsb0son
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    Jul 19, 2016 10:57 PM in response to higgsb0son

    Updated to 10.1.6 with no visible improvement in browsing and speed.

    Now, the promise of Sierra is a new hope, but not for MacBookPro 2009 users as myself.

    So, this is 'thank you' for my 28 years of loyalty to Apple?

  • by Konstantin_kv,

    Konstantin_kv Konstantin_kv Jul 24, 2016 7:46 AM in response to John P.
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    Jul 24, 2016 7:46 AM in response to John P.

    I guess people with discrete GPU don't have the issue, so maybe Intel integrated GPU is cause of all this. Although I didn't have any problems with Yosemite...

  • by higgsb0son,

    higgsb0son higgsb0son Jul 29, 2016 1:43 PM in response to 49_FiveWindow
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    Jul 29, 2016 1:43 PM in response to 49_FiveWindow

    It seems that the issue may have been fixed with 10.11.6! I'm not exactly sure, but apart from one freeze that happened a while ago which may not be related, I have not noticed much freezing after closing YouTube tabs at all lately. It used to happen multiple times a day, and that doesn't seem to be the case since this last OS X update.

     

    Has anyone had these freezes since updating to 10.11.6? I'm only specifically talking about freezes after closing YouTube tabs in Safari, not anything else.

  • by Adam F,

    Adam F Adam F Jul 29, 2016 2:07 PM in response to higgsb0son
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    Jul 29, 2016 2:07 PM in response to higgsb0son

    I have not seen this issue since the update either. I've tried to get it to occur without incidence. I also did some heavy work interacting with YouTube this week with no problems. I'm going to be working with YT in the next day as well. If there is an issue, I'll report back.

     

    Apple is aware of the problem and the specifics. I suspect that they may be checking to see if 10.11.6 rectified the problem.

     

    Anyone else?

  • by Ottius,

    Ottius Ottius Jul 29, 2016 4:56 PM in response to higgsb0son
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jul 29, 2016 4:56 PM in response to higgsb0son

    Haven't had a freeze yet, as well. Although, I'm on STP.

    Got approached by an Apple rep couple months ago about this issue (they were monitoring this thread). Scheduled a call in order to figure out what was causing this issue, but unfortunately I wasn't available when he called couple times. I guess he reached someone else from this thread and Apple finally fixed it (I hope).

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