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Q: Airplay drops after short inactivity

I'm having problems with Airplay on my iPad - it works fine - it'll play all day UNTIL that is, I pause a track (whilst using Spotify). When I resume playback the sound is played through my iPad speakers rather than the Airplay device - I have to select the Airplay device all over again. To an extent, this has always happened, but recently it seems the "timeout" period has reduced significantly. Ideally I'd like to lock the Airplay to my HiFi device until another App needs to use it. Any Ideas welcome thanks.

Posted on May 21, 2016 4:22 AM

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  • by Rudegar,

    Rudegar Rudegar May 21, 2016 5:22 AM in response to Teddy 3
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    May 21, 2016 5:22 AM in response to Teddy 3

    also with the build in music player ?

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 May 21, 2016 6:56 AM in response to Rudegar
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    May 21, 2016 6:56 AM in response to Rudegar

    Thanks for your reply. Just checked it and YES - exactly same behaviour with built in music player.

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 May 22, 2016 10:57 AM in response to Teddy 3
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    May 22, 2016 10:57 AM in response to Teddy 3

    I've done a bit more troubleshooting - using my iPhone as well as my iPad AND using 2 different streaming devices. The problem persists - suggesting it's an iOS issue. At first I thought I'd solved it my using my iPhone (rather than iPad) however, the time it takes for the device to decide it's going to drop my Airplay connection is variable - sometimes drops straight after I've paused and some times if I resume after a minute the connection is still good. There is never any stutter whilst playing, the iOS devices seem to have a mind of their own. I wish someone could explain w the f is going on.

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 Aug 3, 2016 2:22 PM in response to Teddy 3
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    Aug 3, 2016 2:22 PM in response to Teddy 3

    I am amazed no one  experienced this, it's still happening and I need a solution

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall Aug 3, 2016 2:53 PM in response to Teddy 3
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    Aug 3, 2016 2:53 PM in response to Teddy 3

    I think this may be a feature of your AirPlay receiver. You mentioned a HiFi device; what is the make and model?

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 Aug 4, 2016 1:58 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    Aug 4, 2016 1:58 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    Hi Diana,

    My Hi Fi streaming devices are made by Linn (the model is irrelevant as I have 2 different ones and they both exhibit the same issue with my iOS devices). I have been on the Linn Forums and other Linn users were quick to advise they are experiencing the same thing. Some have suggested the behaviour we are experiencing became markedly worse after the introduction of iOS9. I thought the issue could be related to Spotify but the same (airplay connection drop after pause) behaviour occurs with the inbuilt iOS music application and so that was a red herring - nothing to do with Spotify either. I firmly believe this is an iOS issue. I appreciate Apple will deny it's their problem but any help in sorting this highly annoying issue would be appreciated.

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall Aug 4, 2016 9:06 AM in response to Teddy 3
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    Aug 4, 2016 9:06 AM in response to Teddy 3

    AirPlay was substantially revised for iOS 9, so that may explain your observation. Hard to say if the change in drop time is intentional or accidental.

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall Aug 4, 2016 9:22 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    Aug 4, 2016 9:22 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    So, as a test, I started Slacker radio AirPlay from iPad Air 9.3.3 to Apple TV 9.2.2. Let it play for a moment, then paused for 5 minutes, using the iPad Slacker app. Play resumed smoothly. How long a pause is required to cause the drop that you observe? Is it possible that you're doing something on your device or receiver that triggers the disconnect? Might you need to update the firmware on your receivers?

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall Aug 4, 2016 9:40 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    Aug 4, 2016 9:40 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    Paused for 15 minutes, no drop in AirPlay. iPad busy web browsing during these pauses.

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 Aug 4, 2016 1:32 PM in response to Diana.McCall
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    Aug 4, 2016 1:32 PM in response to Diana.McCall

    The connection drops after mere seconds of pause - no time to do anything to trigger the behaviour which is completely reproducable.

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall Aug 4, 2016 1:41 PM in response to Teddy 3
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    Aug 4, 2016 1:41 PM in response to Teddy 3

    Then it looks like it may be a problem with the AirPlay receiver, not the iOS client. If the Linn firmware has not been updated since Sept 2015, when iOS 9 was released, an update may be needed.

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 Aug 4, 2016 2:01 PM in response to Diana.McCall
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    Aug 4, 2016 2:01 PM in response to Diana.McCall

    My Linn firmware has been updated several times since then. It seems we have a classic case of you saying it's their fault - and vice versa

  • by Diana.McCall,

    Diana.McCall Diana.McCall Aug 4, 2016 2:33 PM in response to Teddy 3
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    Aug 4, 2016 2:33 PM in response to Teddy 3

    Hey, I'm just a user like you. I had a Sony GS8 media player that was killed by the addition of encryption to AirPlay in iOS 9. But my observations with iPad and Apple TV seem to indicate that the iPad does not drop the AirPlay connection even when a third-party app stops sending audio for many minutes. Since there's no reason to think that your iPad behaves any differently than mine, it casts doubt on the receiver.

     

    Do you know if Linn is an Apple licensee? It seemed to me that the iOS 9 update was designed to quash reverse-engineered AirPlay implementations.

     

    Are you by any chance using peer-to-peer AirPlay? Do you need to enable Bluetooth in order to see the receivers? Peer-to-peer might be quicker to drop the connection, since it creates a temporary direct link between the devices.

  • by Teddy 3,

    Teddy 3 Teddy 3 Aug 5, 2016 8:41 AM in response to Diana.McCall
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    Aug 5, 2016 8:41 AM in response to Diana.McCall

    I'm not sure what you mean by peer-to-peer. However I don't need bluetooth to see the receivers. I doubt if Linn is an Apple licensee - but I will check. What you seem to be saying if it isn't, Apple found a way of preventing manufacturers who aren't licensees from using Airplay? If this is the case it does seem more than a tad mean?

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