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Aug 5, 2016 12:19 PM in response to Terence Devlinby freediverx01,The futility of our rants against Apple are matched only by the futility of your attempts to silence them.
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Aug 5, 2016 12:26 PM in response to freediverx01by Csound1,Its not about you, its about Apples right to make its own decisions
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Aug 5, 2016 12:37 PM in response to freediverx01by David Strait,Not completely sure if I understand your question. I have never used the iCloud Photo Library.
I store my photo library (Aperture & LR) on disk in RAW format (or TIF for scans). I also use SmugMug for sharing photos (and videos) over the net (this has some overlap with iCloud, but much cheaper for large libraries). Last, I have recently started to include a final, edited JPEG version of each photo in the new "Photos" app.
So, in total... I keep original copies in Aperture (which I will eventually delete) and LR. I have edited copies in Photos & SmugMug. I also have local backups on TM and CCC, plus an offsite backup on BackBlaze.
I only started the the "Photos" option after starting my move to LR. It is useful for syncing photos with an iOS device (or using iCloud, if desired). I wouldn't use "Photos" for editing or as a DAM. I can also give my kids a copy of the Photos library so they have a simple and organized copy of old family photos. They wouldn't know what to do with Aperture or LR.
David
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Aug 5, 2016 12:41 PM in response to David Straitby Csound1,Have you ever restored a BackBlaze backed up Aperture or Photos/iPhoto library? and if so, did it work. (I'm curious)
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Aug 5, 2016 1:08 PM in response to Csound1by David Strait,Csound1,
Never had the need to restore any Aperture files, but I have restored other files occasionally (it's about as simple and quick as restoring files from TM). They are a very "Mac friendly" operation (compared to other services), so I don't have too much of a concern. They also give you the option to encrypt all files (I do). If I had to restore the entire Aperture library (or all my files), I'd just have them send me a HD (at no charge if you return it). It would probably be faster (and cheaper) than trying to download a few TB of data. They charge $5 a month, regardless of the size of the backup (this includes any attached disks on the same computer). I used to keep some HD's offsite, but they could be weeks out of date before I swapped them out. The cost of BackBlaze is probably about the same cost as the HD's I would buy (and replace every few years) for offsite storage; Except they stay up to date and are less of a hassle.
David
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Aug 5, 2016 1:11 PM in response to David Straitby Csound1,I strongly suggest that you try, but don't overwrite your copy on the Mac, there is a chance that it will not properly restore. Best to find out before you need it. This problem only affects iPhoto/Photos and Aperture libraries, everything else is unaffected.
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Aug 5, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Csound1by David Strait,Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll ask them to send me an HD to test it out.
Do you know where you heard about possible problems?
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Aug 5, 2016 1:45 PM in response to David Straitby Csound1,On this site, and from personal experience with SugarSync (who have solved it, by refusing to back them up at all)
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Aug 5, 2016 2:02 PM in response to Csound1by David Strait,Nice solution! (...at least it doesn't give you a false sense of security).
Greatly appreciate the warning... I wonder if there is a similar issue with LR. I keep a referenced library in LR (finder folders) and write all metadata to the files, so it would be a simple issue to re-establish my LR library in any case. My managed Aperture library may be a big problem.
Sounds like I should start storing an Aperture vault offsite again!
Thanks!
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Aug 5, 2016 2:05 PM in response to David Straitby Csound1,You're welcome, and good luck.
Post back and let me know the outcome please.
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Aug 6, 2016 12:36 AM in response to David Straitby léonie,Sounds like I should start storing an Aperture vault offsite again!
I would not use vaults with the current version of Aperture. Vaults have been introduced at a time, when Time Machine could not back up photo libraries reliably. Time Machine is now working well with Aperture Libraries and iPhoto Libraries, but the vaults have never worked reliably since Aperture 3.3. The most common problem is, that they are refusing to update and hanging or restoring from the vault does not work properly, or photos imported from My Photo Stream are missing. I don't trust vaults any longer as a backup. Since a vault is essentially an Aperture library, it is easier to make occasionally a copy of your Aperture Libraries on a backup drive than wasting the time with creating a vault.
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Aug 6, 2016 7:12 AM in response to léonieby David Strait,Wow! Thanks leonie!
Do you know if Carbon Copy Cloner works well as an Aperture backup?
David
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Aug 6, 2016 7:12 AM in response to léonieby David Strait,Wow! Thanks leonie!
Do you know if Carbon Copy Cloner works well as an Aperture backup?
David
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Aug 6, 2016 8:11 AM in response to Csound1by David Strait,Thanks... I'll use CCC instead of vaults.
btw, I did a search on the BackBlaze website and they specifically say they backup Aperture/iPhoto/Photos libraries. I also sent a help request to them asking if they are aware of any problems restoring these libraries, but it will probably take a day before I get a response. I may still order an HD to verify myself (if they should say there should be no problem). I will still make an offsite clone in any case.... just because I'm paranoid.