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Q: Don't give up on Aperture

I think that giving up on Aperture and accepting its demise is not our only option, Aperture is by far the best digital photo application that Apple (or indeed any other software developer) have created and as such, must not be allowed to disappear.

If we all create a groundswell of opinion we can persuade them to reinstate this Rolls Royce of an application. Lets unite, and rise up to remind Apple that Adobe cannot be the provsole digital photo platform on the planet.

Posted on Sep 16, 2015 8:11 AM

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  • by freediverx01,

    freediverx01 freediverx01 Aug 5, 2016 12:19 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Aug 5, 2016 12:19 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    The futility of our rants against Apple are matched only by the futility of your attempts to silence them.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 5, 2016 12:26 PM in response to freediverx01
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    Aug 5, 2016 12:26 PM in response to freediverx01

    Its not about you, its about Apples right to make its own decisions

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 5, 2016 12:37 PM in response to freediverx01
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    Aug 5, 2016 12:37 PM in response to freediverx01

    Not completely sure if I understand your question. I have never used the iCloud Photo Library.

     

    I store my photo library (Aperture & LR) on disk in RAW format (or TIF for scans). I also use SmugMug for sharing photos (and videos) over the net (this has some overlap with iCloud, but much cheaper for large libraries). Last, I have recently started to include a final, edited JPEG version of each photo in the new "Photos" app.

     

    So, in total... I keep original copies in Aperture (which I will eventually delete) and LR. I have edited copies in Photos & SmugMug. I also have local backups on TM and CCC, plus an offsite backup on BackBlaze.

     

    I only started the the "Photos" option after starting my move to LR. It is useful for syncing photos with an iOS device (or using iCloud, if desired). I wouldn't use "Photos" for editing or as a DAM. I can also give my kids a copy of the Photos library so they have a simple and organized copy of old family photos. They wouldn't know what to do with Aperture or LR.

     

    David

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 5, 2016 12:41 PM in response to David Strait
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    Aug 5, 2016 12:41 PM in response to David Strait

    Have you ever restored a BackBlaze backed up Aperture or Photos/iPhoto library? and if so, did it work. (I'm curious)

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 5, 2016 1:08 PM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 5, 2016 1:08 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1,

    Never had the need to restore any Aperture files, but I have restored other files occasionally (it's about as simple and quick as restoring files from TM). They are a very "Mac friendly" operation (compared to other services), so I don't have too much of a concern. They also give you the option to encrypt all files (I do). If I had to restore the entire Aperture library (or all my files), I'd just have them send me a HD (at no charge if you return it). It would probably be faster (and cheaper) than trying to download a few TB of data. They charge $5 a month, regardless of the size of the backup (this includes any attached disks on the same computer). I used to keep some HD's offsite, but they could be weeks out of date before I swapped them out. The cost of BackBlaze is probably about the same cost as the HD's I would buy (and replace every few years) for offsite storage; Except they stay up to date and are less of a hassle.

     

    David

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 5, 2016 1:11 PM in response to David Strait
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    Aug 5, 2016 1:11 PM in response to David Strait

    I strongly suggest that you try, but don't overwrite your copy on the Mac, there is a chance that it will not properly restore. Best to find out before you need it. This problem only affects iPhoto/Photos and Aperture libraries, everything else is unaffected.

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 5, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 5, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Csound1

    Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll ask them to send me an HD to test it out.

     

    Do you know where you heard about possible problems?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 5, 2016 1:45 PM in response to David Strait
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    Aug 5, 2016 1:45 PM in response to David Strait

    On this site, and from personal experience with SugarSync (who have solved it, by refusing to back them up at all)

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 5, 2016 2:02 PM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 5, 2016 2:02 PM in response to Csound1

    Nice solution! (...at least it doesn't give you a false sense of security). 

     

    Greatly appreciate the warning... I wonder if there is a similar issue with LR. I keep a referenced library in LR (finder folders) and write all metadata to the files, so it would be a simple issue to re-establish my LR library in any case. My managed Aperture library may be a big problem.

     

    Sounds like I should start storing an Aperture vault offsite again!

     

    Thanks!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 5, 2016 2:05 PM in response to David Strait
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    Aug 5, 2016 2:05 PM in response to David Strait

    You're welcome, and good luck.

     

    Post back and let me know the outcome please.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Aug 6, 2016 12:36 AM in response to David Strait
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    Aug 6, 2016 12:36 AM in response to David Strait
    Sounds like I should start storing an Aperture vault offsite again!

    I would not use vaults with the current version of Aperture.  Vaults have been introduced at a time, when Time Machine could not back up photo libraries reliably. Time Machine is now working well with Aperture Libraries and iPhoto Libraries, but the vaults have never worked reliably since Aperture 3.3. The most common problem is, that they are refusing to update and hanging or restoring from the vault does not work properly, or photos imported from My Photo Stream are missing. I don't trust vaults any longer as a backup. Since a vault is essentially an Aperture library, it is easier to make occasionally a copy of your Aperture Libraries on a backup drive than wasting the time with creating a vault.

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 6, 2016 7:12 AM in response to léonie
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    Aug 6, 2016 7:12 AM in response to léonie

    Wow! Thanks leonie!

    Do you know if Carbon Copy Cloner works well as an Aperture backup?

     

    David

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 6, 2016 7:12 AM in response to léonie
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    Aug 6, 2016 7:12 AM in response to léonie

    Wow! Thanks leonie!

    Do you know if Carbon Copy Cloner works well as an Aperture backup?

     

    David

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 6, 2016 7:20 AM in response to David Strait
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    Aug 6, 2016 7:20 AM in response to David Strait

    Yes it certainly does.

  • by David Strait,

    David Strait David Strait Aug 6, 2016 8:11 AM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 6, 2016 8:11 AM in response to Csound1

    Thanks... I'll use CCC instead of vaults.

     

    btw, I did a search on the BackBlaze website and they specifically say they backup Aperture/iPhoto/Photos libraries. I also sent a help request to them asking if they are aware of any problems restoring these libraries, but it will probably take a day before I get a response. I may still order an HD to verify myself (if they should say there should be no problem). I will still make an offsite clone in any case.... just because I'm paranoid.

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