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Q: How much can I backup from my old phone and restore to the one I plan to buy tomorrow?

I had a nightmare of losing data when I upgraded to iPhone 4, and I want to do it right this time.  I don't trust Apple to tell me (after the last fiasco) so I am asking the community - -

 

Now that I want to upgrade from iPhone 4 to iPhone SE - how do I transfer my data?  That is

- Pictures

- Alarms on my Clock

- Calendar entries

- Reminders

- Notes

- Voice Memos

- Alarms on my Clock

- Safari bookmarks

- "Favorite places" on Maps

- Messages

- Contacts

 

How much can be backed up?

-  What is backed up by the "full backup" and what isn't?

-  What is backed up by "sync-ing".  Is this more, less, or different from backup?

-  Is using iCloud necessary?  (I have avoided putting data in ANYONE's cloud, but I will if I have to.)

-  What would be backed up to iCloud that iTunes ignores, and what do I have to do to make it happen.

 

I assume that whatever I SYNC from my current/old iPhone to my PC (iTunes) will automatically SYNC back to the new phone tomorrow.  Am I assuming too much?

 

I assume that whatever I BACKUP from my current/old iPhone to my PC (iTunes) will RESTORE back to the new phone tomorrow.  Am I assuming too much?

 

I have no assumptions about iCloud - Are there things that I can only transfer via the Cloud??  What?  How?

iPhone 4, iOS 7.1.2, moving to iPhone SE, iOS 9.?

Posted on Aug 5, 2016 6:15 PM

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  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen Aug 7, 2016 10:17 AM in response to gb-pdx
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    Aug 7, 2016 10:17 AM in response to gb-pdx

    (note LACAllen's post of information that Apple makes available to developers, not typical users like me).

    Found that passage with a Google search. Publicly available data.

     

    https://developer.apple.com/icloud/documentation/data-storage/index.html

  • by Meg St._Clair,

    Meg St._Clair Meg St._Clair Aug 7, 2016 10:19 AM in response to gb-pdx
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    Aug 7, 2016 10:19 AM in response to gb-pdx

    gb-pdx wrote:

     

    I am resentful beyond words that I am being forced to use iCloud in order to maintain an adequate backup.  But I am slowly coming to terms with this outrage.  So then . .

    You don't have to. Use iTunes.

  • by gb-pdx,

    gb-pdx gb-pdx Aug 7, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Csound1
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    Aug 7, 2016 1:42 PM in response to Csound1

    As I said, rather specifically at the beginning -

    //

    Now that I want to upgrade from iPhone 4 to iPhone SE - how do I transfer my data?  That is

    - Pictures

    - Alarms on my Clock

    - Calendar entries

    - Reminders

    - Notes

    - Voice Memos

    - Safari bookmarks

    - "places" on Maps

    - Messages

    - Contacts

    \\

    I am concerned about the NATIVE APPS that have stored data on our current phones.  My memory is that the big chunks of data were lost the last time I trusted iTunes for a "full backup", and I want to make sure that I know what to do to save each of these items this time around.  (If some data from purchased apps is restored, I will be pleasantly surprised.)

  • by gb-pdx,

    gb-pdx gb-pdx Aug 7, 2016 1:44 PM in response to Meg St._Clair
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    Aug 7, 2016 1:44 PM in response to Meg St._Clair

    One of the "geniuses" on the telephone told me that pictures are not backed up and restored via iTunes.  My wife has a large "grandma's brag book" of pictures that she wants to move onto the new phone.  That is why I feel that I am being forced into the cloud against my will.

  • by gb-pdx,

    gb-pdx gb-pdx Aug 7, 2016 1:50 PM in response to LACAllen
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    Aug 7, 2016 1:50 PM in response to LACAllen

    OK - so I am not sufficiently diligent with my searches.    I said that APPLE did not make it available to the public - meaning thru the navigation and search functions on their own user-oriented web pages.

     

    I rather expected to find answers to my questions on the SUPPORT section of the Apple website.

  • by Michael Black,

    Michael Black Michael Black Aug 7, 2016 1:54 PM in response to gb-pdx
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    Aug 7, 2016 1:54 PM in response to gb-pdx

    gb-pdx wrote:

     

    One of the "geniuses" on the telephone told me that pictures are not backed up and restored via iTunes.  My wife has a large "grandma's brag book" of pictures that she wants to move onto the new phone.  That is why I feel that I am being forced into the cloud against my will.

    Transfer the photos to the OS X photo program or your photo archive program of choice and then restore them to the new phone from that. I have several thousand photos on my iPhone and iPad, and over 25,000 on my MacBook Pro. I have none in iCloud.

     

    You should be archiving your photos somewhere anyway for safe keeping (and iCloud is not an offsite archive for photos anyway so even if using iCloud one should be backing up photos somewhere).

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Aug 7, 2016 2:10 PM in response to gb-pdx
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    Aug 7, 2016 2:10 PM in response to gb-pdx

    iCloud is nothing to do with it, it is a synchronization service, it puts your pictures somewhere they can be accessed by other devices that you want to have them. It is not storage, and its use is entirely optional.

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