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Q: MacPro 2009 suddenly lost sound and startup time is over a minute

Hi just a couple of days ago my early 2009 MacPro  started taking well over a minute to start up when it used to take less than 30 seconds.

About  the same time I lost the sound from my Analog Audio Line out port.  (Don't know if there is any connection there).

I can still use my head set for  sound ok when it's plugged into a USB port.

When I go to the Sound pane there is  no Line Out port visible.  I  have a Boise radio plugged into the line out port , having the sound piped through to the Aux. setting on the radio.  It's been working fine for many years.

I tried plugging in a spare set of powered speakers,  the Line Out  choice showed up in the Sound pane but still couldn't get any sound out of the speakers when I selected it.

 

The loss of the sound is a nuisance  but I can still use my head set.  

It's the slow start up that is bothering me,  even though once it has finally started up the computer runs fine and  responds quickly.

Something has changed drastically  and I feel like something is going on and it doesn't bode well for me.

Hope someone can give me some good news and a fix.

Thanks

Mac Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)

Posted on Aug 13, 2016 12:16 PM

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  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Aug 14, 2016 12:54 PM in response to JmDo
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    Aug 14, 2016 12:54 PM in response to JmDo

    I surmise I was not clear with my earlier reply. That Mac is a Petri dish of useless junk, and it simply is not going to work properly. About the only piece of junk thing missing from that Mac is "MacKeeper", which you will also invite if you follow one of the links posted to this Discussion.

     

    I suggest you erase it completely and rebuild it from a Time Machine backup created prior to having burdened it with such ill-conceived things. That is not the only way to recover from having done so, but that's what I would do if it were my Mac. It is also likely to result in the least amount of your time and constant interaction.

  • by JmDo,

    JmDo JmDo Aug 14, 2016 1:57 PM in response to John Galt
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    Aug 14, 2016 1:57 PM in response to John Galt

    Thanks John point taken,   I also noticed that  one of the links was tied to MacKeeper which is why I didn't use it.

    Never tried that before so it will  be a bit of a challenge, memory isn't as  good as it used to be at 83 but I'll give it a go.

  • by JmDo,

    JmDo JmDo Aug 14, 2016 2:00 PM in response to lllaass
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    Aug 14, 2016 2:00 PM in response to lllaass

    What would you use instead?

  • by John Galt,Solvedanswer

    John Galt John Galt Aug 15, 2016 9:24 AM in response to JmDo
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    Aug 15, 2016 9:24 AM in response to JmDo

    I do not make the recommendation to "erase and reinstall" without serious consideration. You really do have too much worthless garbage and equally ill-conceived system modifications to enumerate separately. All those things are unnecessary at best, and scams at worst. They are preventing your Mac from working as designed.

     

    How do you determine what is "garbage" and what is not? Use the following excerpt from Effective defenses against malware and other threats as a partial guide:

     


     

    Never install any product that claims to "clean up", "speed up", "optimize", "boost" or "accelerate" your Mac; to "wash" it, "tune" it, or to make it "shiny". Those claims are absurd.


    • Such products are very aggressively marketed. They are all scams.
    • They generally operate on the flawed premise that a Mac accumulates "junk" that needs to be routinely "cleaned out" for optimum performance.
    • Trial versions of those programs are successful because they provide the instant gratification of greater free disk space.
    • That increased space is the result of irreversible destruction of files, programs, or operating system components normally protected from inadvertent alteration or deletion. The eventual result will be unreliable operation, poor performance and random crashes that may not become evident for months or even years after their use, when updates to programs or OS X are eventually released.
    • Memory "cleaners" that circumvent OS X's memory management algorithms work by purging inactive memory contents to mass storage, which can only result in degraded performance and accelerated hardware failure.

     


     

    Conversely stated: if a software product conveys or enhances the ability to do whatever it is you bought your Mac to do, then it's not "garbage". Creating or listening to music, watching movies, organizing your documents, developing work products, communicating with text messages or email, playing games and otherwise entertaining yourself are a few of the reasons Apple designed the Mac. They designed it specifically to preclude the need for non-Apple "anti-virus", "maintenance", "cleaning", "protection" or "enhancement" utilities. Those things are scams with one and only one true purpose: to exploit Mac users and take their money – regardless of whether they are "free" or not.

  • by JmDo,

    JmDo JmDo Aug 15, 2016 9:51 AM in response to John Galt
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    Aug 15, 2016 9:51 AM in response to John Galt

    Thank you John,  you've convinced me and I appreciate all of your time and effort rounding up the links and excerpts for my education. 

  • by Eau Rouge,

    Eau Rouge Eau Rouge Aug 15, 2016 9:52 AM in response to JmDo
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    Aug 15, 2016 9:52 AM in response to JmDo

    Not having Anti-Virus software is not living on the edge, there are no viruses that target Mac OS X.

     

    Have a good look through your Apps and see which ones you can live without, you seem to have a lot of the same type of apps doing the same thing, update any if they have versions for Yosemite.

     

    You also have a lot of login items, do you really need all those apps opening up when you power up.

  • by JmDo,

    JmDo JmDo Aug 16, 2016 4:42 PM in response to Eau Rouge
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    Aug 16, 2016 4:42 PM in response to Eau Rouge

    Thanks Eau,  that was just a general statement about living on the edge,  however you still do need to protect yourself from adware.

    Thanks for the suggestions.

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