Donald Holevoet

Q: El Capitan cannot find startup drive without holding down 'X' key

I ended up installing El Capitan a few weeks ago on my early 2008 Mac Pro.  I have the four bays filled and El Capitan is in the 3rd bay on one partition on a 2 TB HD.  There are no other systems on any of the other drives except for Time Machine on one other drive or another drive that I have cloned my main startup drive.  When I check out Startup in the System Preferences, I only get the two choices:  my main drive or the clone of the main drive.

 

When I start up I get a white screen, UNLESS I hold down the 'X' key until the Apple logo appears. If I forget, and I get the white screen, I press the startup button which shuts it off instantly and then I start over, holding down the 'X' key.

 

At that point it runs seamlessly as it has since the beginning—after figuring that out.  I can keep doing that way but I thought maybe there is a simple answer to this problem—which is not really a problem.

Mac Pro, OS X El Capitan (10.11.6)

Posted on Aug 22, 2016 2:39 PM

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  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Aug 22, 2016 3:58 PM in response to Donald Holevoet
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    Aug 22, 2016 3:58 PM in response to Donald Holevoet

    When I check out Startup in the System Preferences, I only get the two choices:  my main drive or the clone of the main drive.

     

     

    You then click on the drive from which to start up, leaving its Icon highlighted. From there, you can choose Restart button or go about your business and restart later.

  • by Donald Holevoet,

    Donald Holevoet Donald Holevoet Aug 22, 2016 5:14 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Aug 22, 2016 5:14 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    Thank you Grant.  I mentioned Startup in System Preferences to point out there was no other system other than El Capitan. Yes it always starts back up on restart and the drive I am aiming for is always the one showing being selected. I even went as far to unlock the lock, re-select the same system, and then authenticate the change three times even though it was not a change.  On restart it came right back to the right drive.

     

    My issue and question comes into play each time after I have a total shutdown—once a day, every day—to save energy.  It is the morning after (or just now) as I shut it down totally after the restart you suggested.  Without holding down the 'X' key I get a white screen—no Apple logo, no startup. If I do not hold down 'X' soon enough, I must turn it off with the start button, wait a few seconds and start again. And then it works:  I get the chime, I get a temporary white screen and then the Apple logo, etc.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Aug 22, 2016 5:23 PM in response to Donald Holevoet
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    Aug 22, 2016 5:23 PM in response to Donald Holevoet

    Have you ever had Windows installed?

  • by Donald Holevoet,

    Donald Holevoet Donald Holevoet Aug 22, 2016 5:45 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Aug 22, 2016 5:45 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    No I have not.

     

    Recently, before I installed El Capitan I had Yosemite. There were earlier systems on my drives, like Snow Leopard and earlier. I made the mistake of stepping back too far to one of them and that system could not see Yosemite so I upgraded to El Capitan.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Aug 22, 2016 6:26 PM in response to Donald Holevoet
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    Aug 22, 2016 6:26 PM in response to Donald Holevoet

    The "fix-all" for problems like this is generally to download the 10.11.6 COMBO update, and re-apply it. This just makes sure everything is right and often solves wonky problems.

  • by Donald Holevoet,

    Donald Holevoet Donald Holevoet Aug 23, 2016 10:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Aug 23, 2016 10:36 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    I did just that and there is no change in requiring me to hold down the 'X' key to start.  Yes it is wonky, but my Mac does work and I am thankful for that.

  • by Donald Holevoet,Solvedanswer

    Donald Holevoet Donald Holevoet Aug 23, 2016 3:12 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Aug 23, 2016 3:12 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    So nothing was gained by installing the 10.11.6 combo, but I did not stop there.  I had always asked locally if anyone thought the order of the drives in the four bays would play any part in my wonky problem. I put my 2TB drive in bay 1 and what was in bay 1 went to bay 3. So now the startup partition was the beginning of the chain.  And then I zapped the pram—which I had done before but to no avail.

     

    Now from a total shutdown to startup there is no white screen more than a few seconds before the Apple logo and startup.

     

    Thanks for sticking with me on my wonky problem.

  • by Lanny,

    Lanny Lanny Aug 25, 2016 6:02 AM in response to Donald Holevoet
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    Aug 25, 2016 6:02 AM in response to Donald Holevoet

    The "X" key, don't you mean the "Option" key?

     

    What is holding down the "X" key supposed to do?

     

    Edited: Okay now I see why Grant asked you about having Windows on your machine.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255

  • by Donald Holevoet,

    Donald Holevoet Donald Holevoet Aug 25, 2016 6:50 AM in response to Lanny
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    Aug 25, 2016 6:50 AM in response to Lanny

    No, I mean the "X" key. It is the first item in an Apple Service & Support document for Mac OS X keyboard shortcuts. I downloaded and printed it years ago. Category one is the Startup Keystroke to force Mac OS X startup.

     

    I said years ago because this is an early 2008 Mac Pro desktop. The link above in your reply lists the "X" key as item 13, whereas on my list it is item 1.

     

    Why is there an edited comment in your reply? You don't have to answer.

  • by Lanny,

    Lanny Lanny Aug 25, 2016 6:53 AM in response to Donald Holevoet
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    Aug 25, 2016 6:53 AM in response to Donald Holevoet

    Category one is the Startup Keystroke to force Mac OS X startup.

    Only if it is configured to startup form something other than an OS X startup drive. Probably why you were asked if you were previously using a Windows startup drive.

     

    The Option key startup is what is normally used.

  • by Donald Holevoet,

    Donald Holevoet Donald Holevoet Aug 25, 2016 7:03 AM in response to Lanny
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    Aug 25, 2016 7:03 AM in response to Lanny

    I understand. I went with the list I had. Had it not worked the first time I would have gone on to find something else.

    Thanks.