Charles Benson

Q: photos

-How do I archive my photos outside of the application, as in file folders? I have lost photos that have gone unsupported by Apple -- iPhoto will not open and the apple download doesn't work. I want to permanently save my photos a on an SSD.

Posted on Aug 29, 2016 11:34 AM

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  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 29, 2016 11:37 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 29, 2016 11:37 AM in response to Charles Benson

    If you mean how do you export photos from the photos application, then you should use the export option from the photos file menu.

  • by Keith Barkley,

    Keith Barkley Keith Barkley Aug 29, 2016 11:39 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 29, 2016 11:39 AM in response to Charles Benson

    Assuming you did not have an *ancient* version of iPhoto. Photos should be able to open your iPhoto Library. If not something like iPhoto Library Manager should work.

  • by Rysz,

    Rysz Rysz Aug 29, 2016 11:49 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 29, 2016 11:49 AM in response to Charles Benson

    iPhoto was replaced by Photos app. Launch Photos and it will migrate all your iPhoto files to its own library. Depending on the size, this migration might be a lengthy period, but you should not "loose" anything.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Aug 29, 2016 12:00 PM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 29, 2016 12:00 PM in response to Charles Benson

    Which version of OS X and iPhoto do you have?

     

    If you are now running el Capitan or OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite or newer, you would need iPhoto 9.6.1.  You can only update to this version by reinstalling iPhoto from the Purchases tab of the appStore, and and only under certain conditions. see Barney's user tip:

      Can't Update iPhoto because it is not available in the App Store

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8431

     

    I'd try to update iPhoto, even if you migrate the iPhoto Libraries to Photos.  YOu may need iPhoto to repair the library before you migrate it, or to be able to compare the migrated library to the original iPhoto version. Some content cannot be migrated, so you will need to recreate it.  See this document:  How Photos handles content and metadata from iPhoto and Aperture - Apple Support

    And also:  Updating from iPhoto to Photos for OS X - Apple Support

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Aug 29, 2016 11:59 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 29, 2016 11:59 AM in response to Charles Benson

    I have lost photos that have gone unsupported by Apple -- iPhoto will not open and the apple download doesn't work. I want to permanently save my photos a on an SSD.

    You need Photos 9.6.1 - see Can't Update iPhoto because it is not available in the App Store - or better yet just migrate them to Photos.  When you migrate from iPhoto '09 (version 8.x.x) or later you simply drag the iPhoto library to the Photos icon in the Dock and it migrates intact per theses rules - How Photos handles content and metadata from iPhoto and Aperture - Apple Support

     

    If your old library was made by iPhoto '08 (version 7.x.x) or earlier you first have to download and run the library upgrader tool then migrate to Photos as above - Using the iPhoto Library Upgrader tool - Apple Support

     

    As to keeping your own copy - I see no point - I do two daily back ups (Time machine and a daily clone) for my system with two libraries totaling about 100,000 photos - I have never lost a photo or even had to go back to a backup except for stupid human error which has made me do a restore of yesterday's libary

     

    If you want to simply select them in Photos and export (file menu ==> export  --  Probably the unmodified originals)  either automatically using the Moments structure or manually using your own structure and put them anywhere you want

     

     

     

    LN

  • by Charles Benson,

    Charles Benson Charles Benson Aug 29, 2016 2:22 PM in response to LarryHN
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    Aug 29, 2016 2:22 PM in response to LarryHN

    Thanks for your feed back - and yes I was wanting to keep my own copy. Preferably exporting an album at a time.

    It looks like I will have to build my own structure. I have 20,000 plus photos and they are in iPhoto, Aperture and Photo Libraries. I never finished importing all to Aperture before the big change. The Using the iPhoto Library Upgrader tool - Apple Support does not work with my iPhoto libraries, (downloaded several times). I can't tell what version of iPhoto I have since it is grayed out. I wanted to keep all photos in one large library, then create others as needed.

     

    Can you tell me why I have over 250 "Photos" libraries when I attempt to choose a library (by holding down the option key) and starting Photos? I must have 500 total libraries!! Do you have any suggestions on how to straighten out this mess? Yes I have a daily clone and time machine back up also. Does Photo's allow duplicates in the "all photos" album?

     

    Any more help will be appreciated.

     

    Thanks Charlie Benson

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Aug 29, 2016 2:30 PM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 29, 2016 2:30 PM in response to Charles Benson

    Aperture 3.6 and Photos 9.6.1 both run under El Captain and both can export to an event structure - Aperture may have more options even - I seldom use it

     

    As to why you have many libraries I have no idea - when I do an option launch of Photos I have two copies of each of my libraries - one on my Mac disk and one on my clone disk

     

    All Photos is just that - All Photos - it you have duplicates in your library then you will have duplicates in All Photos

     

    LN

  • by léonie,Solvedanswer

    léonie léonie Aug 30, 2016 10:59 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 30, 2016 10:59 AM in response to Charles Benson

    Charlie,

    ? I must have 500 total libraries!! Do you have any suggestions on how to straighten out this mess?

    which version of Aperture do you have?  Aperture is the only Apple application I kow, that can merge Aperture libraries and iPhoto libraries, without losing the edited versions or the originals.  But the versions of iPhoto and Aperture need to match. All other tools will force you to decide between the edited versions or the originals. See this link:  Aperture 3.3: How to use Aperture to merge iPhoto libraries - Apple Support

     

    But you need matching versions of Aperture and iPhoto, so update to iPhoto 9.6.1 and aperture 3.6 if you can. It may not be possible, if your versions are not AppStore versions.

     

    . I can't tell what version of iPhoto I have since it is grayed out. I wanted to keep all photos in one large library, then create others as needed.

    To find out  the versions of your applications, you can select the application in the Finder and use "File > Get Info" . In many cases, the info panel will show the version.

     

    If the Info panel is not showing the version, use the -menu in the upper left corner of the main menu bar.

     > About the Mac.

    In the About panel click "System Report". In the System Report panel scroll down in the sidebar to "Software" and select "Applications". Wait for the list of all applications to appear and look for iPhoto and Aperture. The list will show the version numbers.

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  • by léonie,Helpful

    léonie léonie Aug 30, 2016 10:33 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 30, 2016 10:33 AM in response to Charles Benson
    Can you tell me why I have over 250 "Photos" libraries when I attempt to choose a library (by holding down the option key) and starting Photos? I must have 500 total libraries!!

    Do you have backup drives connected, when you select libraries? Photos, iPhoto, Aperture will show all libraries you have, even the librares on connected drives, if the are not time machine drives. It is easy to accidentally open the wrong library, and if do not have the drive connected, when you launch Photos the next time, it may simply create a new library, if it cannot find the last library you opened.

  • by Keith Barkley,

    Keith Barkley Keith Barkley Aug 30, 2016 7:55 AM in response to léonie
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    Aug 30, 2016 7:55 AM in response to léonie

    Especially when they are all named "iPhoto Library"!

  • by Charles Benson,

    Charles Benson Charles Benson Aug 30, 2016 11:08 AM in response to léonie
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    Aug 30, 2016 11:08 AM in response to léonie

    Thanks again - I am slowly getting there, I now have iPhoto 9.6.1 and Aperture 3.6 and have made library upgrader work. When I merge iPhoto lib and Aperture libraries I will have a ton of duplicates -- is there a safe way to dispose of these? Any good software that you know of?

     

    Thanks again Charlie

  • by Charles Benson,

    Charles Benson Charles Benson Aug 30, 2016 11:11 AM in response to léonie
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    Aug 30, 2016 11:11 AM in response to léonie

    I only have time machine and a clone drive connected now, however it still shows all the past clones that are now disconnected! ----Any thoughts?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Aug 30, 2016 11:25 AM in response to Charles Benson
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    Aug 30, 2016 11:25 AM in response to Charles Benson

    When I merge iPhoto lib and Aperture libraries I will have a ton of duplicates -- is there a safe way to dispose of these? Any good software that you know of?

    There are a few third party applications to detect and remove duplicates, that are safe to use. Don't use apps that directly modify the library, only applications that gather the duplicates in an album, so you can delete them using Aperture or iPhoto.

     

    if you need to purchase a duplicate detector, I would wait with the duplicate detection until after you migrated to Photos, so you can buy an app that you can use after the migration that will work with Photos for Mac.

     

    Photo Sweeper is safe, Power Photos, or Duplicate Annihilator.

    I have tested Photo Sweeper and Power Photos.

    • Photo Sweeper is very good, if your duplicates are different versions of the same photos in different states of edits or different sizes. It can compare the actual photos based on histograms or bitmaps. Also, it can search duplicates across several libraries.
    • Power Photos is the successor to iPhoto Library Manager for Photos. It can find duplicates based on file attributes - filenames, file size, etc. You can also use it to move photos between libraries or to merge Photos Libraries.
  • by Charles Benson,

    Charles Benson Charles Benson Aug 30, 2016 12:06 PM in response to léonie
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    Aug 30, 2016 12:06 PM in response to léonie

    Once again, thanks for your help -- I now have Photo Sweeper (couldn't wait) and downloading the manual to learn the application and do the work. Now to merge all my 500 plus libraries - will I have to chase down on which disk they are downloaded? or is there an easier way? Is there a safe way to delete these multipal backups?

     

    Thanks for all your time in helping folks - it is very much appreciated.

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