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Q: whatsapp, chat transfer

Hallo.

Up to now my daughter used an iPhone 4S linked to her boy friends Apple-ID. Now she got an iPhone 5S with her own Apple-ID.

Task is to transfer her whatsapp-chat-history from the old iPhone to the new one.

 

The only way I could find in the inet ist the tranfer via iCloud. But -as I know- that only works when both phones are linked to the same Apple-ID because iCloud is Apple-ID related. That's not fact in our case.

Is there any other procedure to transfer the whatsapp-chat-history from one phone to another one over Apple-ID "frontier"?

Thanks in advance.

ervau

Posted on Aug 31, 2016 7:06 AM

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  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Aug 31, 2016 7:06 AM in response to ervau
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    Aug 31, 2016 7:06 AM in response to ervau

    You would have to ask WhatsApp that question.

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    ervau ervau Aug 31, 2016 7:21 AM in response to ervau
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    Aug 31, 2016 7:21 AM in response to ervau

    Thanks Finch.

    I think that's a pretty lightweight answer.

    I asked whatsapp, but I suppose they will tell me to ask Apple because they are not responsable for iOS limitations concerning Apple-ID "frontiers".

    Maybe somebody has a solution for me.

    Im hoping

    ervau

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Aug 31, 2016 7:45 AM in response to ervau
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    Aug 31, 2016 7:45 AM in response to ervau

    Here's the heavyweight answer. App developers have a choice of where they store their data. It can be on the phone itself, on their own servers (many do this), or in iCloud. If they store data in iCloud it is in a proprietary format that cannot be read or copied by any other app or by you. If WhatsApp stores its data on the WhatsApp servers it will appear on her phone regardless of the state of her iCloud account as long as the phone number is the same, as WhatsApp is tied to the phone number; that is, it's independent of iCloud. If WhatsApp stores its data in iCloud then there is no way to copy it, as iCloud is encrypted to protect the privacy of the user.

     

    It's also possible that WhatsApp data is accessible using a 3rd party tool such as TouchCopy. This may be able to download the WhatsApp history from the phone, and upload it to a different phone. However, as one of the key features of WhatsApp is its data security (all conversations are end to end encrypted) this may not work either.

     

    Which comes back to the fact that only WhatsApp techs knows how it stores data, which is why asking them is the most useful approach.

  • by ervau,

    ervau ervau Sep 1, 2016 1:29 AM in response to Lawrence Finch
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    Sep 1, 2016 1:29 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

    OK, thanks Lawrence, understood.

    Whatsapp says that the chat-history only is stored on the phone. So it only can be saved via a backup in iCloud or on a PC.

    Additional question (I hope this concerns the Apple side):

    Is there a chance to recover/ restore just a part of a backup (f.ex. only the whatsapp-chat- history) saved in iCloud or on the PC?

    Or is it only possible to restore the whole backup?

    Thanks in advance.

    ervau

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Sep 1, 2016 6:54 AM in response to ervau
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    Sep 1, 2016 6:54 AM in response to ervau

    Restoring a backup is all or nothing. But if you are moving from one phone to another one this shouldn't be a problem unless you have new data on the new phone that you don't want to overwrite. See: Transfer content from an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to a new device - Apple Support

     

    There are PC and Mac applications available that can extract data from an iTunes backup; quite a few of them, in fact (search for "iPhone backup extractor"). The information can be saved in standard file types on the computer, but cannot be restored to the phone.