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Sep 3, 2016 11:12 AM in response to Izmisusaisby pokey b,★HelpfulI got curious and just booted my Mac, a somewhat ancient 21.5 inch mid-2010 i-Mac. I was curious as it does feel slow to boot sometimes, however, I was pleasantly surprised compared to the Dell laptop my employer has provided me with (but it is bogged down with a lot of security software). The Mac has a 3.06 GHz core i3, 12 GB RAM and is running OS X 10.11.6. This is an off-the-shelf unit from a nearby Apple store from November 2010. It took 88 seconds to load the desktop then an additional 8 seconds to load a web page. I then opened mail and I was at 1 min 43 seconds by the time mail synced. It does have a 7200 RPM HD which helps, but a SSD would undoubtedly be faster (I've thought of booting from an external SSD but the processor is getting pretty old, I may be close to needing/wanting a new machine). The Dell takes a little over twice as long. So how fast (slow?) does your machine boot?
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Sep 3, 2016 11:12 AM in response to pokey bby Izmisusais,Well it is almost 3 min from "on" button to first page opened in Chrome. So it got me wondering if it slow and I have to do something about it... And apparently I do
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Sep 3, 2016 12:12 PM in response to Izmisusaisby macjack,★HelpfulHi Izmisusais, why don't you run an EtreCheck, report? It is a diagnostic tool that's very useful to us in finding problems. Also it will give us further specs on your Mac. After it runs post the log file here. It will contain no personal information.
Startup time is dependent on a number of factors other than the speed of hard drive, how many LogIn Items are loading, Launch Daemons, Startup Items, etc.
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Sep 3, 2016 11:29 AM in response to Izmisusaisby Paul Skee,27" 2.7 Ghz i5 w/8 gigs ram. 1min 48 seconds from pressing the power button to safari home page (includes login).
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Sep 3, 2016 11:55 AM in response to macjackby Izmisusais,EtreCheck version: 3.0.3 (307)
Report generated 2016-09-03 21:51:11
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime 4:06
Performance: Good
Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.
Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.
Problem: Other problem
Description:
Slow boot
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013)
[Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
iMac - model: iMac14,1
1 2,7 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 4-core
8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
BANK 0/DIMM0
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
BANK 1/DIMM0
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Intel Iris Pro
iMac 1920 x 1080
OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 (15G1004) - Time since boot: about 2 hours
APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E662 disk0 : (1 TB) (Rotational)
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (801.59 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Mac App Store and identified developers
/Library/Extensions
[not loaded] com.kaspersky.kext.klif (3.0.5a45 - 2016-09-02) [Support]
[not loaded] com.kaspersky.nke (2.1.0 - 2016-09-02) [Support]
/System/Library/Extensions
[loaded] com.avira.kext.FileAccessControl (1.1.1 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-09-02) [Support]
[not loaded] 7 Apple tasks
[loaded] 153 Apple tasks
[running] 78 Apple tasks
[not loaded] 46 Apple tasks
[loaded] 148 Apple tasks
[running] 97 Apple tasks
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.general.agent.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.ipm.ui.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.notifications.agent.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.odscan.default.plist (2016-07-25) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.scheduler.agent.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[running] com.avira.antivirus.systray.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.telemetry.agent.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.update.default.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[running] com.avira.helper.avstats.plist (2015-06-11) [Support]
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-07-12) [Support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2014-11-29) [Support]
[running] jp.co.canon.ScanGearMF.appl.Canon-MF-Scan-Agent.plist (2012-09-12) [Support]
[running] jp.co.canon.ScanGearMF.appl.Canon-MFSU-Agent.plist (2014-12-11) [Support]
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-06-29) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.dbcleaner.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.avira.antivirus.ipm.loader.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[running] com.avira.helper.watchdox.plist (2015-04-30) [Support]
[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-09-02) [Support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helpertool.plist (2016-08-03) [Support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (2014-11-17) [Support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (2015-09-11) [Support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2014-11-29) [Support]
[loaded] com.bittorrent.uTorrent.plist (2016-03-30)
[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist (2016-08-26) [Support]
FlashPlayer-10.6: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-12) [Support]
QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-07-21)
Flash Player: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-12) [Support]
Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-21)
SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.5.6 - SDK 10.6 (2015-10-10) [Support]
PepperFlashPlayer: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.6 (2016-07-12) [Support]
JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 101 build 13 (2016-08-12) Check version
Avast Online Security - AVAST Software - http://www.avast.com (2014-11-29)
Flash Player (2016-06-29) [Support]
Java (2016-08-12) [Support]
Mobile backups: OFF
Auto backup: YES
Volumes being backed up:
Macintosh HD: Disk size: 999.35 GB Disk used: 197.76 GB
Destinations:
Data [Network]
Total size: 2.00 TB
Total number of backups: 47
Oldest backup: 04.07.16 15:59
Last backup: 03.09.16 20:31
Size of backup disk: Adequate
Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk used 197.76 GB X 3)
15% mdworker(9)
2% kernel_task
0% avguard-ondemand-mgmt
0% fontd
0% Google Chrome Helper(10)
1.86 GB Google Chrome Helper(10)
733 MB kernel_task
442 MB savapi
262 MB Google Chrome
246 MB avguard.bin
1.24 GB Free RAM
6.76 GB Used RAM (2.08 GB Cached)
0 B Swap Used
Sep 3, 2016, 06:47:59 PM Self test - passed
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Sep 3, 2016 12:00 PM in response to Izmisusaisby Csound1,You have kaspersky and avira installed, any one of them can mess up your Mac, two is worse, uninstall them both
Torrents commonly are homes for malware, uninstall BitTorrent.
Other than that mess your report looks OK.
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Sep 3, 2016 12:07 PM in response to Izmisusaisby macjack,Here's what is affecting your startup time Kaspersky and Avira. Uninstall them.
There are no viruses that can attack Mac.OS X. So, anti-virus programs are selling a cure for a disease that doesn't exist. And they are renowned for borking Mac systems.
Remove Avira:
https://www.avira.com/en/support-for-business-knowledgebase-detail/kbid/1242
For Kaspersky:
Use the provided uninstaller.
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Sep 3, 2016 12:12 PM in response to macjackby Izmisusais,I can't even find Kaspersky on my system anymore, I got it for a trial and thought I removed it afterwards. How can Kaspersky boot if it cant be found?
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Sep 3, 2016 12:17 PM in response to Izmisusaisby macjack,They have been identified in /Library/Extensions.
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Sep 3, 2016 12:20 PM in response to Izmisusaisby Csound1,Izmisusais wrote:
I can't even find Kaspersky on my system anymore, I got it for a trial and thought I removed it afterwards. How can Kaspersky boot if it cant be found?
You did not remove it correctly (not uncommon, A/V software is similar to viruses, and equally hard to get rid of)
Follow macjacks advice to get rid of it.
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Sep 3, 2016 12:30 PM in response to Csound1by Izmisusais,Ok, removed them both. Found an uninstal tool in Kaspersky's web page. Hope it helps!
Thank you guys - you are golden!
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Sep 3, 2016 12:34 PM in response to Izmisusaisby John Galt,Izmisusais wrote:
... How can Kaspersky boot if it cant be found?
One or more of the following may help:
http://support.kaspersky.com/7264
http://support.kaspersky.com/9941
http://support.kaspersky.com/8366
"Avast" also appears to be installed, or was installed at one time and not completely uninstalled. Uninstalling "Avast" requires using its uninstaller.
Using ill-conceived "anti-virus" products on a Mac will cause improper operation and increase its exposure to threats. Don't use them. Read Effective defenses against malware and other threats.
If you are still unable to rid your Mac of the "anti-virus" products affecting it, restore from a Time Machine backup created prior to installing them.
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Sep 3, 2016 10:36 PM in response to John Galtby Izmisusais,So both AV are removed, but it doesnt seem to be booting faster. Any other ideas? Maybe clean install? Or wait for Sierra?