sergejhamza

Q: Outlook.com - NO ActiveSync / MAPI / MapiHttp / EWS / RPCoverHTTPs = NO Exchange Services with Hotmail Accounts / Calendar, Contacts, Mail

Hi Guys,

 

has someone an idea what is happening with outlook.com ActiveSync Client in Mac OS X El Capitan?

There is no possibility to add Outlook.com Account in Apple Mail App in Mac OS X El Capitan anymore. The Apple Support doesn't know a lot about it. Even Outlook 2016 creates an IMAP Account (no EAS/RPCoHTTPS/MAPI/MAPIHTTP/AS). That is why even Outlook 2016 don't sync my Contacts and Calendar from Outlook.com. Whats wrong?

Some friends told me that must be a new license trick by microsoft to make live hard to non-Microsoft customers. But I think thats not the problem because iOS9 (also owned by Apple) uses native ActiveSync for Outlook.com in mail app without any problems. Since Microsoft changed hotmail to outlook.com, they moved from BSD Webservers to real Microsoft Exchange Servers, but it still must be the ActiveSync client behind mail Apps in any mobile devices like Microsoft phone or iPhones.

It seems like Mac OS X only support Exchange Web Services. But i heard that outlook.com customers don't have EWS support. Only office365 customers have. Does anybody know how to active EWS in outlook.com?

What will happen in future?

 

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Hat jemand eine Idee was mit der Mail App in Mac OS X El Capitan passiert? Wieso kann man keine outlook.com Konten einbinden, währen es am iPhone funktioniert? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen das es mit Lizenzen verbunden ist, weil sonst die Lizenz für das iPhone ja auch fehlen würde. Sogar Outlook 2016 bindet die Outlook.com Konten als IMAP ein - deshalb funktioniert kein Kalender und keine Kontaktsynchronisation! Soweit ich weiss benutzt Outlook.com ActiveSync. Dies scheint auf dem Mac nicht zu gehen (eventuell weil ActiveSync nur für Mobile Geräte gedacht ist). Weiss jemand was da genau los ist und wie dieses Drama weitergehen soll?

 

Danke im Voraus

 

MfG

 

Sergej

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Posted on Sep 4, 2016 9:44 AM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 4, 2016 9:45 AM in response to sergejhamza
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    Sep 4, 2016 9:45 AM in response to sergejhamza

    Active Sync has always been supported on IOS, but Microsoft appear not to have enabled it for Macs, ask them why.

  • by sergejhamza,

    sergejhamza sergejhamza Sep 4, 2016 12:00 PM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 4, 2016 12:00 PM in response to Csound1

    I notized in OpenChange / SOGo Server log that ActiveSync protocol seems to be able to identify the device type, that might realy be technically possible. So you realy think that Microsoft restricts Mac Books by device type?

     

    So there must be a way to lead to belive an other device type?!

     

    thank you

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 4, 2016 12:02 PM in response to sergejhamza
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    Sep 4, 2016 12:02 PM in response to sergejhamza

    Yes I do, and I'll leave you to recode Microsofts apps to suit you.

  • by sergejhamza,

    sergejhamza sergejhamza Sep 4, 2016 12:22 PM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 4, 2016 12:22 PM in response to Csound1

    Thanks a lot.

     

    I read that Microsoft only allows mobile devices to use AS.

    is there an other way to sync calendar and contacts from Outlook.com?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 4, 2016 12:23 PM in response to sergejhamza
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    Sep 4, 2016 12:23 PM in response to sergejhamza

    It doesn't seem that there is unfortunately

  • by sergejhamza,

    sergejhamza sergejhamza Sep 4, 2016 12:27 PM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 4, 2016 12:27 PM in response to Csound1

    OK thank you

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 4, 2016 12:38 PM in response to sergejhamza
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    Sep 4, 2016 12:38 PM in response to sergejhamza

    You're very welcome.

  • by sergejhamza,

    sergejhamza sergejhamza Sep 4, 2016 1:59 PM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 4, 2016 1:59 PM in response to Csound1
  • by John Lockwood,

    John Lockwood John Lockwood Sep 5, 2016 9:59 AM in response to sergejhamza
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    Sep 5, 2016 9:59 AM in response to sergejhamza

    To say Microsoft are irrational with regards to their email systems would be an understatement.

     

    • Office365 supports EAS for mobile devices, EWS for Macs via Outlook for Mac and MAPI for Windows via Outlook for Windows
    • MS Exchange supports EAS for mobile devices, EWS for Macs via Outlook for Mac and MAPI for Windows via Outlook for Windows
    • Outlook.com supports EAS for mobile devices, IMAP for Macs and EAS for Windows via Outlook for Windows

     

    Apple Mail supports IMAP and EWS

    Apple Contacts supports EWS and CardDav

    Apple Calendar supports EWS and CalDav

    Outlook for Mac 2016 supports IMAP and EWS, it does not support EAS at all

    Outlook for Windows 2016 supports MAPI and --> EAS <-- however EAS is only available for use with Outlook.com it cannot be used to access MS Exchange or Office365

    iOS devices support EAS, IMAP, CardDav and CalDav

     

    In case you are unaware IMAP is for email only and hence Macs can only get email from Outlook.com when using Microsoft's own Outlook 2016 client.

     

    For a home user you are far better off using a Google Gmail account which supports IMAP, CardDav and CalDav meaning a Mac can get email, contacts and calendars. Arguably the same applies to business users who can also use Gmail and then also get EAS support.

     

    This is not Apple's fault. Microsoft operate Outlook.com, Microsoft write Outlook for Mac, it is therefore up to Microsoft to provide a solution.