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Q: How to remove books from iCloud permanently ?

How to remove books from iCloud permanently ?

iPad, iOS 6.1.3

Posted on Mar 26, 2013 10:28 PM

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Q: How to remove books from iCloud permanently ?

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 21, 2015 12:05 PM in response to bdainton
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    Nov 21, 2015 12:05 PM in response to bdainton

    Jived

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 21, 2015 12:04 PM in response to bdainton
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    Nov 21, 2015 12:04 PM in response to bdainton

    bdainton wrote:

     

    Snippy, snippy.  Obviously not everyone is as computer savvy as you are.  Get a grip. This forum is to help people who aren't necessarily computer geeks.  Lighten up.  What exactly is your problem!!

    What exactly is your question?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 21, 2015 12:07 PM in response to rexriley
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    Nov 21, 2015 12:07 PM in response to rexriley

    rexriley wrote:

     

    I have another reason to needing books completely removed from an iPad, iCloud, iTunes then has been discussed thus far.  I am in the Technology Dept of an independant school where we have a 1-to-1 program using iPads.  A middle school student has somehow (?) downloaded a very inappropiate book in their parents opinion.  Remember that kids will e kids and sometimes do rather stupid mistakes.  The parents wnat/need these books completely erased from thier childs accounts.  This might be able to remove the child's ability to re-doenload such materials or might not want some bit of incrimnating paper trail to this childs indecretions.

     

    So to Gail and others here.  There are legitimate reasons to want to expunge records from the mighty apple's computers.  It seems rather typical of Apple and MAc users to think that 'if Apple doesn't want tsomeone to do X or Y, then one shouldn't need to do it."  This smacks of Big Brother to me.  And the argument that this is an industry standard or that it would cause undue support calls to Apple just doesn't old water.  Apple has never followed industry standards, but rather works at setting them.  And how hard is it to make a user understand and confirm that some action they take will have inrriversable consequences?

     

    Come on Apple, give us the tools we need.

    Have you thought of asking Apple, we can't do it, and personally I disapprove of people who wish to change history, so there is no help here.

  • by LisaKBell,

    LisaKBell LisaKBell Dec 29, 2015 7:39 AM in response to Akalu
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    Dec 29, 2015 7:39 AM in response to Akalu

    What about on an iPhone!

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Dec 29, 2015 9:08 PM in response to LisaKBell
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    Dec 29, 2015 9:08 PM in response to LisaKBell

    What about it?

     

    GB

  • by Itsmehoratio,

    Itsmehoratio Itsmehoratio Feb 23, 2016 10:14 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Feb 23, 2016 10:14 PM in response to gail from maine

    I Have followed the directions to hide the purchases in the purchased section of iTunes.  However, I still have those books showing up in my library on both my iPad and my iPhone. How do I get them off?

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Feb 23, 2016 10:20 PM in response to Itsmehoratio
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    Feb 23, 2016 10:20 PM in response to Itsmehoratio

    Those instructions were for an earlier version of iOS. If you want the books off of your device, open the iBooks app on the device, click on Title, and swipe left on the book. If it is not currently in iCloud, it will appear with a cloud next to it. Swipe left again, and click on Delete again, and it will go away.

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by Itsmehoratio,

    Itsmehoratio Itsmehoratio Feb 26, 2016 9:01 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Feb 26, 2016 9:01 PM in response to gail from maine

    Hello,

     

    I tried swiping left on the title and all it did was prompt me to try and download it from the cloud again. I clicked on select and it doesn't let me delete, just gives me a move option.  I don't want to move it anywhere except off my device. It was a crap free book and I don't even want it in the cloud lol

    how can I make it go away?

     

    thank you

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Feb 26, 2016 9:52 PM in response to Itsmehoratio
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    Feb 26, 2016 9:52 PM in response to Itsmehoratio

    Need more info. What device? What iOS? I tested the answer before I posted it. I'm using an iPhone 5s running iOS 9.1.2.

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by Itsmehoratio,

    Itsmehoratio Itsmehoratio Feb 26, 2016 11:20 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Feb 26, 2016 11:20 PM in response to gail from maine

    OH ok. it is a 4th generation iPad running iOS 9.1.2.

    THank you!

  • by Appdicted,

    Appdicted Appdicted Sep 13, 2016 1:32 AM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 13, 2016 1:32 AM in response to gail from maine

    gail from maine wrote:


    "None of the book applications out there work that way - not Amazon/Kindle, not Banrnes & Nobel Nook, none of them. They keep you ENTIRE purchsased library in the Cloud, so you have access (when connected to Wifi) to your many, many books that you have lined up to read over the next sevaral years.


    You then selelct the  ones you want to have on your devide right now, and you download those only. Then, you just don't even have to click on teh "Cloud" option if you just can't stand to be overwhelmed by such a vast array of potential reading material.


    What, exactly, is the problem?


    And oh, by the way, you can delete a device from iCloud at any time by deleting the iCloud account off of the device....how hard is that?

     


    What, exactly, is the problem?"


    GB

    WWell, I'm rather disappointed with your comment on this VERY TROUBLING "Content Control" ISSUE!  You state that none of the most used mobile book apps also don't have the option to allow the user THE RIGHTS to delete, remove (permanently) their purchases, whether from within the book app, the Cloud, or from iTunes.  So, this justifies ANY such app from denying the user the option to control what content takes up valuable, LIMITED space...free though it may be.  My opinion is that Apple is JUST as CRIMINALLY ABUSIVE, as Microsoft and Google are, to their members by taking the away the choice to control what they want to do with their purchases.

     

    So "What, exactly, is the problem?"  I'll tell you, speaking on behalf of a vast majority that feel the same way I do.  These mega-monstrosity companies in the personal computer and mobile/information/social media/data storage industries, to name but a few of the MAJOR technologies that people around the globe are FORCED to use, for lack of commercial competition, are helplessly dependent on, and victimized by. Why?  Because these companies are corrupt by their own power and financial dominion to the point where they are not governed by ethical standards nor judicial checks and balances. That's my answer to your unfriendly (to be kind) "What, exactly, is the problem?"

     

    I also have issue with your demeaning reference to "And oh, by the way, you can delete a device from iCloud at any time by deleting the iCloud account off of the device....how hard is that?". I'm going to be a little snotty here, cause I'm hopping mad. God forbid that anyone actually used this incipid suggestion as yet ANOTHER useless and ignorant "resolution" you offer, for the consequences of deleting a device from iCloud has several immediate native sub-routines when executed. Syncing with other devices - gone!  Not all devices are in perfect sync with all devices, meaning a vast amount of backed up data was just erased. Yeah, it can be recovered, but only for a VERY short time period. Not many users are aware of how syncing works, and that iCloud syncing already is inundated with problems that developers have to fix.

     

    MY response to the original question of how can one delete purchased books from the Cloud, from iTunes Purchase History and/or from the book app directly is this:  It's very difficult, and unless you have developer skills or know how to read source files from a website (which is hard to read even with some experience in programming), hiding your iCloud books from being visible in your book app of choice is the best resolution I can offer, being an ethical and responsible person.

     

    I'm not entirely sure if you can delete the books from the Cloud this way, but I will offer the steps that makes what is in the Cloud much higher chance of user-control options. If I'm wrong, no harm done because it won't DO anything unintended. From a desktop computer, go to www.icloud.com, and sign in. You do NOT have to download the Cloud app to your hard drive, but you can if you wish. From the website, once signed in, you will see all the native apps the Cloud backs up and stores your content in, by category. Open (click on) iBooks and you should see your entire backed up purchases an/or sites you opened in iBooks (as PDFs), etc. I believe you can delete content right there.

     

    Another option is to go straight to iTunes library on a desktop computer, and make sure you select all categories to display (Music, Apps, Videos and Books). Select the option to also show Cloud content. Unfortunately, if it's not downloaded to your library, in order to PERMANENTLY delete content, you have to download EVERYTHING that has a cloud symbol next to it. Once it's "in your library", you CAN delete it, but make sure you select the option to permanently delete it when the confirmation window opens. Doing this makes it disappear from the cloud AND your purchase history. You will have to buy it again if you decide you want it back.

     

    I hope I was helpful, in any way, and in any measure. I'm RARELY logged in but you can email me at my AOL addy.

     

    Good luck and remember one thing:  you have control over one thing only. You control how you choose to react, feel, perceive and your attitude. This is true of EVERYTHING you experience, PERIOD.  Even things we don't have control over, like being rear-ended, getting cancer when you chose not to smoke, drink, eat fatty foods, and exercised faithfully; whether you're betrayed, lose a loved one, become impoverished, etc, etc.   I'm sorry if I intruded by sharing info that has nothing to do with the question posed; I don't have much opportunity to make a difference in the way people think and feel, so whoever reads this is fortunate, for I've learned people don't want this kind of help.  

     

    Renée Wenker

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Sep 13, 2016 12:26 PM in response to Appdicted
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    Sep 13, 2016 12:26 PM in response to Appdicted

    Apple does not allow the purchaser to delete any media that is purchased via iTunes, Mac App Store, or iBooks Store.

     

    Books do not use your personal iCloud space, just like Shared Photo Streams do not use your personal iCloud space, or any other purchased media for that matter. iCloud space is used for backups, messages, notes, contacts, calendars, and anything else you have checked under Settings>iCloud. Apple Music is stored in the iCloud Music Library, and if you are using iCloud for Photos, those are stored in the iCloud Photos library. They all are

     

    Hiding books has been detailed multiple times throughout this thread.

     

    What you are referring to as "permanently delete" is not deleting, it is hiding. The purchase will not be visible, but you still own it and it is still on your purchase history. The only point at which it would be completely deleted is if it is not in your physical library and Apple removes it from the iTunes/iBooks or Mac App Store. This has also been stated several times.

     

    If you want Apple to make a change to allow you to permanently delete purchased Media, then you should send your feedback to Apple: Apple - Feedback

     

    GB

  • by Appdicted,

    Appdicted Appdicted Sep 14, 2016 11:01 AM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 14, 2016 11:01 AM in response to gail from maine

    "Apple does not allow the purchaser to delete any media that is purchased via iTunes, Mac App Store, or iBooks Store."

     

    Not quite accurate...because I did this myself, which is why I did not offer "I'm not sure, but...", as I did in suggestion using iCloud.com.  I was able to delete over 100 apps (not native apps) that I purchased and found I never used or didn't like.  This earlier this year...April 2016, I believe.  And upon selecting an app, right-clicking, and choosing "Delete"...the options were (not verbatim, but close):

    1. Do you want to remove this item from your library?
    2. Do you want to delete item from your library? (sending it back to the cloud...)
    3. Do you want to delete item and send it to the recycle bin?

    I selected #3 and received a pop-up warning, "Are you sure you wish to permanently delete this item?"  I clicked yes, and the item was no longer in my iTunes library, not even with a cloud symbol.

     

    The rest of your comments are valid; the items I "permanently deleted" from my iTunes library were all apps.  To this day, they are not found anywhere in my account purchase history.  As for hiding content you don't want to see, this is a great option.  But the issue was to get rid of content unwanted that is taking up space in the iCloud, so hiding is not a solution.  Personally, I have not been able to find a working solution to this issue, despite eons of hours researching all imaginable, but reputable sites.  And THIS is why I am so (to be kind) displeased with Apple, as well as Google and Microsoft (and others, to be sure).  I'm SURE Apple included these conditions in its' 30-100 page Terms & Conditions notice/policy, but that still doesn't make it right or acceptable to restrict a user's rights (let's not say "constitutional rights") but individual, ethical and inherent rights to purchased and paid for content.

     

    And I won't rant away, because honestly, there isn't a thing anyone can do about it without coming together as a whole to petition a demand to update their policies.  I'm not complaining, don't misunderstand.  I accept that it is what it is, and though I choose not to like it, and let it rile me at times, I continue to choose Apple products over Android, fully aware of the advantages and disadvantages.

     

    I merely wanted to offer my experience and opinion as a means of support.  Thank you for your response, and professional attitude.

     

    Regards,

    Renée

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Sep 14, 2016 11:22 AM in response to Appdicted
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    Sep 14, 2016 11:22 AM in response to Appdicted

    OK, but two corrections:

     

    Appdicted wrote:

     

    "Apple does not allow the purchaser to delete any media that is purchased via iTunes, Mac App Store, or iBooks Store."

     

    Not quite accurate...because I did this myself, which is why I did not offer "I'm not sure, but...", as I did in suggestion using iCloud.com.  I was able to delete over 100 apps (not native apps) that I purchased and found I never used or didn't like.  This earlier this year...April 2016, I believe.  And upon selecting an app, right-clicking, and choosing "Delete"...the options were (not verbatim, but close):

    1. Do you want to remove this item from your library?
    2. Do you want to delete item from your library? (sending it back to the cloud...)
    3. Do you want to delete item and send it to the recycle bin?

    I selected #3 and received a pop-up warning, "Are you sure you wish to permanently delete this item?"  I clicked yes, and the item was no longer in my iTunes library, not even with a cloud symbol.The rest of your comments are valid; the items I "permanently deleted" from

    my iTunes library were all apps.  To this day, they are not found

    anywhere in my account purchase history.

     

     

    Again, the action that you took removed it from your iTunes Library, but not from your purchases. Go to iTunes Store, click on Account then View My Account, then scroll to Hidden Purchases and click on Manage, you should see it there. That is the point of hiding the media. It doesn't show in your purchased list or your library - it is hidden.

     

    Appdicted wrote:

     

      As for hiding content you don't want to see, this is a great option.  But the issue was to get rid of content unwanted that is taking up space in the iCloud, so hiding is not a solution.  Personally, I have not been able to find a working solution to this issue, despite eons of hours researching all imaginable, but reputable sites.

    Once again, media that you purchase from iTunes or from the Mac App Store do not take up your iCloud space. They are housed in what is called iTunes in the Cloud. You don't pay for this - and actually, the media itself is not stored anywhere - just the purchase history so that if you want to redownload it, the system can find the media in iTunes and redownload it for you. So, hiding does what it is intended to do. It removes all visible trace of your purchase.

     

    If you would like to share your feelings with Apple, you can do so here: Apple - Feedback

     

    Since this is a user to user technical support forum, Apple does not read or respond to posts here. They do read all feedback although they don't respond to it.

     

    GB

  • by Appdicted,

    Appdicted Appdicted Sep 14, 2016 11:08 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 14, 2016 11:08 PM in response to gail from maine

    Gail,

     

    I am humbly corrected. Wow. Both updated replies to my last post were not ever checked because I had thought I followed it all the way through to satisfaction. I didn't know iTunes had a hidden purchase history!  As for the issue with cloud space, I concede that I had to read back through all your posts on this thread, and saw that you did, indeed, mention and explain this issue each time.

     

    I'm so sorry for being "snotty" (not to mention also being a hypocrite).  Thank you for your willingness to keep at it until I fully understood.  Thank goodness humble pie doesn't have a calories.  

     

    Renée

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