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Sep 2, 2016 8:35 AM in response to gail from maineby hmlake,You call it hogwash then prove his point by saying the purchase can be made unavailable because Apple has no control over whether they will always be available. Apple can go out of business, their servers can crash or be hacked, they can lock you out of your account, they can lose track of what you "purchased". So LesMikesell is absolutely right, you're not buying, you're renting.
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Sep 2, 2016 10:17 AM in response to hmlakeby gail from maine,I guess you missed the part about "that's why we recommend backups". If you have all of your media in your iTunes Library, it will always be available whether it is still in the Apple Library or not. So, you OWN it. But if you owned a book, but left it in the Library instead of taking it home, and the library burned down, then even though you owned the book, it wouldn't be available to you anymore.
And the backup part is to protect your Library from the vagaries of electronics, accidents, mother nature....
One you purchase your media, if you keep a copy of it, then you will always have access to it.
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Sep 2, 2016 1:19 PM in response to gail from maineby hmlake,Yeah, whatever. The guy says you don't own it if someone else has control over it and you can't access it. What he said was not hogwash, if you have a backup you do have access. Though Apple makes the backups virtually useless without their proprietary software, and if you so much as move or rename them they become actually useless. And what is this royal "we recommend" anyway, if you work at Apple say so.
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Sep 2, 2016 1:45 PM in response to hmlakeby gail from maine,This is a user to user forum. "We" means members of the Community. And I'm not even sure why you are responding to a post that is over 2 years old with specious arguments. You control your music. If you are too lazy to back it up or to keep it intact in your iTunes Library, that's too bad. But when you purchase anything it is your job to take care of it. If you don't and it disappears, that's on you.
And don't go all conspiracy theory about the proprietary software. If you don't like the structure, then go buy CDs. But your argument is no more valid than blaming Sony for not making hardware that will still run Betamax videos. If you want to take advantage of technology, then you have to accept the limitations and risks that go along with it.
So, again, not sure what attitude is all about after more than two years, but you might want to find something more productive to do than to pick apart posts that were written that long ago on a thread that was started almost 5 years ago about Apple IDs....
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Sep 2, 2016 1:59 PM in response to gail from maineby hmlake,Oh so now I'm too lazy to back up my files. Thanks for making my point, the point being that you denigrate people on this forum who happen to make a statement you disagree with, whether it's telling someone their viewpoint is "hogwash", or saying someone is lazy or a conspiracy theorist or what my "job" is in relation to what I "purchase". No, my problem is not with Apple, it is with your disrespectful attitude to Apple's customers while implying that you work for Apple when you don't.
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Sep 2, 2016 2:04 PM in response to gail from maineby hmlake,What does it matter when this post was first started, it just shows that there a problem that still needs solving since people are still on this topic five years later, and I notice it hasn't stopped you from putting your 1 cent worth in during that time.
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Sep 17, 2016 7:06 AM in response to hmlakeby skybax,Maybe when this tread goes to 10 years or 120 pages we will get resolution. The problem is that Apple in their lack of wisdom gives customers email addresses (.mac or .me etc. and now .icloud) that they neither want nor asked for and results in at least some of the confusion that is at the core of the multiple ID problem. In my case, I cannot even get into the .mac account that I apparently purchased some of my content from way back when - so it is unavailable to me. My solution - I don't buy content from Apple - I buy or borrow CDs and add content I want that way.
Does anyone know a way to sort and view songs/content by which ID they purchased on? If I could do that, I would just delete all the content from the ID I can no longer access and be done with it.
Thanks!
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Sep 17, 2016 1:38 PM in response to skybaxby Eric Root,You might want to consider starting a new discussion. Since this one is a couple of years old, less people are likely to look at it. A new post would be much more visible. You can link to this one.