jshire

Q: the recently deleted folder has stopped appearing when I delete photos

Hi,

I have el captain & have been sorting through my photo albums / folders in photos. Its been working ok - deleting some images & then the 'recently deleted' album appears & I can either delete them totally in there or leave them for the 30 days etc.  However tonight I deleted around 10 albums & the 'recently deleted' folder simply hasn't appeared.

 

nb. I have been using the command-delete system so it should have been working as before. 

 

Any ideas ?

 

thanks,

MacBook Pro, OS X El Capitan (10.11.6)

Posted on Sep 16, 2016 1:01 PM

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 17, 2016 6:56 AM in response to jshire
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    Sep 17, 2016 6:56 AM in response to jshire
    I can't also see how what you say could be the way it works because surely millions of users delete photos from photo at some point & then, some time later, decide they need the image again so find it on their ehd's & reimport - that's about as standard a procedure as I can think of for managing photos.

    I'll try again:  the copied photo you saved will not be problematic at all. And deleting photos from Photos by using the built in tools of the Photos application is also no problem at all. On that we are d'accord.

    Only opening the Photos library from the Finder and manually removing photos from the internal Masters folders instead of using the delete commands in Photos are problematic.

    I also tried copying a photo from the masters folder, placing it on my desktop, deleting the image from masters & then dragging the copy in to photo again -

    A library, where you manually deleted photos from the Masters folder, using the Finder and not Photos, is inconsistent. Importing back into this manually modified library may result in errors.

     

    Perhaps we are using the term "Masters folder" differently?

  • by jshire,

    jshire jshire Sep 17, 2016 7:07 AM in response to léonie
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    Sep 17, 2016 7:07 AM in response to léonie

    I think we're using the master folder in the same way. 

     

    earlier when deleting using the open album, select photos, command-delete, empty recently deleted process did not free up any space it was established that doing that would not remove the photos from photo - only the versions that are placed in the various photo albums. Then it was suggested that one needs to delete the photos from the all photo option - again this did not free up space. Then it was found online that the only way to free up space in photos is to delete the masters as in the masters folder every photo you put into photo is stored there, no matter what else you do in the app. I didn't delete them from the masters folder as I was still looking for a full explanation.

     

    when I found that obscure iphotos sub-folder with only 10mb of data in but which when deleted showed up as 13,000 files etc. that seemed to sort out the freeing up of space. However, I will add that all the photos I deleted are still in the master folder !  So there is still more gb of images in that folder than now in my photo app albums etc.

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Sep 17, 2016 10:00 AM in response to léonie
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    Sep 17, 2016 10:00 AM in response to léonie

    OK, got it! I'm putting those tips somewhere where I can find them in future! Thanks, as always, for your knowledge and patience

     

    GB

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 17, 2016 10:33 AM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 17, 2016 10:33 AM in response to gail from maine

    You're welcome, Gail!

    You are mor patient than I am!

  • by jshire,

    jshire jshire Sep 17, 2016 12:23 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Sep 17, 2016 12:23 PM in response to gail from maine

    can I ask one more thing, in light of the conversation so far:  how is one expected to delete photos from the masters folder ?  If they really can't be deleted from there then basically everyone will eventually run out of disc space even if they delete all the photos from the photos app itself (but which still retains them in the masters folder) ?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Sep 17, 2016 12:31 PM in response to jshire
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    Sep 17, 2016 12:31 PM in response to jshire

    If your Photos application is working correctly, it it is supposed to delete the original image files from the Masters folder in your Photos Library if you delete photos from Photos using the usual deletion commands.

    It simply should not happen, that the  managed original image files are staying behind, if you delete photos in Photos.

  • by jshire,

    jshire jshire Sep 17, 2016 1:03 PM in response to léonie
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    Sep 17, 2016 1:03 PM in response to léonie

    thanks - but (sorry) I can find lots of threads, comments etc saying the opposite + for whatever reason its not happening with me also.  The photos are all still in 'all photos' & the masters folder.

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