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Q: iOS 10 HomeKit Lock Automation

Why do automation actions for HomeKit locks in iOS 10 require user action To run? for example a trigger to arrive at a location pushes a notification asking the user if you want to run the scene or not To unlock the lock. Kind of defeats the purpose of the automation it seems.

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Posted on Sep 16, 2016 4:07 PM

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Q: iOS 10 HomeKit Lock Automation

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  • by jodywoodcock,Apple recommended

    jodywoodcock jodywoodcock Sep 19, 2016 11:13 AM in response to Cartaa
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    Sep 19, 2016 11:13 AM in response to Cartaa

    I think the reason is that a Lock is a security device and it now wants verification that you are the user.

    I noticed the same thing with my lock not unlocking until I selected ok in notification center and then had to log into the iPhone to run the scene.

    To test that theory I set up another trigger to run a scene when leaving an area. Set that trigger to run a scene that turned on a light. That worked without any user interaction.

    Only the trigger to run a scene using a security device (i.e.:a door lock) would it not run until I logged in.

     

    Its the same as when you wake your iPhone but do not login and go then swipe up to get to the control center then swipe over to homekit and select accessories or scenes. Then you can run non security scenes and trigger non security accessories without logging in, but if you try to unlock/lock the lock it will ask you to log in first before executing.

     

    It makes sense, if someone gets your phone they could unlock your door if they had not implemented this feature. Under iOS9 it was different. The trigger would run the scene automatically without user interaction.

     

    Thats what I have figured out from my testing.

  • by johnnygoodface,

    johnnygoodface johnnygoodface Sep 23, 2016 2:17 PM in response to Cartaa
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    Sep 23, 2016 2:17 PM in response to Cartaa

    Thank G... I found this thread: I thought I was the only one in the world with this issue

     

    Homekit is all about automation: why would Apple change the rules and added a manual intervention for locks? I get that someone could steel our phone and run away to a house and unlock it, but that's pushing security a bit too far: what's are the odd of this happening...

     

    I bought a Homekit lock just so I wouldn't have to pull out my phone or keys when coming or leaving my home.... now I arrive home, forgot about the notification and choke at a closed door...

     

    I'll have to write a suggestion to Apple...

     

    Not happy.

  • by greyboarder,

    greyboarder greyboarder Sep 30, 2016 1:44 PM in response to Cartaa
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    Sep 30, 2016 1:44 PM in response to Cartaa

    I think the answer about security is ridiculous.  For security to be an issue then not only would someone have to steal your phone but know your address and know your lock code.  Come on Apple get this sorted out so it works properly as it used to in IOS 9...which I am going back to by the way...very poor show Apple in ruining a great feature of being able to have the door unlock as you approach the house with your hands full.

  • by lhelber,

    lhelber lhelber Oct 2, 2016 1:35 PM in response to jodywoodcock
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    Oct 2, 2016 1:35 PM in response to jodywoodcock

    And how is this different than someone finding my keys.  If someone finds my iPhone they should not be able to find out what my address is because my phone is locked. Finding my phone should be the same as finding a set of keys.  I have been happily having my front door auto-unlock for 6 months and am not worried about the security breach.  If Apple wants to make this a security issue they should give me the option.

  • by deggie,

    deggie deggie Oct 2, 2016 6:40 PM in response to lhelber
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    Oct 2, 2016 6:40 PM in response to lhelber
  • by greyboarder,

    greyboarder greyboarder Oct 4, 2016 9:36 AM in response to deggie
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    Oct 4, 2016 9:36 AM in response to deggie

    Done,,, but gone back to 9.3.5 in the meantime...

  • by lhelber,

    lhelber lhelber Oct 5, 2016 12:21 PM in response to deggie
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    Oct 5, 2016 12:21 PM in response to deggie

    I have posted a replay informing them of my disappointment with this feature. I am not looking for a way around this feature

  • by johnnygoodface,

    johnnygoodface johnnygoodface Oct 5, 2016 2:28 PM in response to johnnygoodface
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    Oct 5, 2016 2:28 PM in response to johnnygoodface

    Something must have changed, because now my August Lock with automatically unlock when I cross my geofencing limit... I now simply get an August AutoUnlocked notification and I don't have to act on it.

     

    FYI: August has just release a version (5.2.3) to correct problems launching a lock operation from the Today Widget. Will test that right away and keep you posted

  • by lhelber,

    lhelber lhelber Oct 5, 2016 3:52 PM in response to johnnygoodface
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    Oct 5, 2016 3:52 PM in response to johnnygoodface

    What is your August lock? Is that your door lock or something else? I still must respond to the notification