Jonah Lee Walker

Q: No 5 Star Song Rating in iOS 10

What is going on? Did Apple really remove the 5 Star Song Rating from the Music App in iOS 10. I can only find Like and Dislike. Well I have been using iTunes since it was SoundJam, and have been rating my songs using the 5 Stars, and making various Playlists based on those. And I have always used Music on iOS to rate songs, but not having that really drives me insane. It seems to be Apple thinking they are smarter than everyone once again, but not being right! I am not going to go through my 40,000+ music Library and rerate my mysic so simply! I might as well move to Windows and Android and re-rate there! Seriously this is taking my main featute out of the music player! You have to be kidding me!

Posted on Sep 13, 2016 8:51 PM

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  • by hsteenwijk,

    hsteenwijk hsteenwijk Sep 17, 2016 12:02 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 17, 2016 12:02 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    +1. I submitted feedback also.

  • by guesstimate,

    guesstimate guesstimate Sep 17, 2016 6:19 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 17, 2016 6:19 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    I agree, this is the worst part of iOS 10. I have so many playlists which automatically update on  the basis of whether it's a 2/3/4/5-star song.. 1-star songs were later deleted.. Not all songs can be rated as binary as like/dislike. Is this a way to make us use the iPod instead? Can we still rate songs on the iPod or is that gone, too?

  • by Fildefer,

    Fildefer Fildefer Sep 17, 2016 7:48 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 17, 2016 7:48 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    I agree with all comments above. I'm lost without this.

  • by Fildefer,

    Fildefer Fildefer Sep 17, 2016 10:08 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 17, 2016 10:08 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    Well I found another app (ecoute) that allows to see & change the rating of the song playing. I synced and it transferred back. It seems to work. Problem solved for me.

  • by Zorglub-Paris,

    Zorglub-Paris Zorglub-Paris Sep 18, 2016 12:57 AM in response to Fildefer
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    Sep 18, 2016 12:57 AM in response to Fildefer

    Rating with Ecoute does not work when you use iTunes Match.

    You can view ratings but changes are not propagated through the cloud.

    Too bad...

  • by CoJeff,

    CoJeff CoJeff Sep 18, 2016 1:05 PM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 18, 2016 1:05 PM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    URGH! I can't believe they removed the star rating system from the music app! I have over 35,000 tracks and a bunch of smart lists based on those star ratings. I routinely rate songs I just added while I'm listening to music on my phone. The Love/Hate option is unacceptable  and useless for a music collection of my size. I've already submitted feedback to Apple about this. I think I will start a weekly feedback email until it comes back.

     

    I saw someone comment in this thread about having 5 playlists that you can add tracks to based on what you want to rate the songs. Then you use the playlists to rate stuff in iTunes. Although this will work it becomes more of a pain to rate your music.

  • by ithesoul,

    ithesoul ithesoul Sep 19, 2016 2:26 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 2:26 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    absolutely agree - just submitted feedback.

  • by benbork,

    benbork benbork Sep 19, 2016 2:58 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 2:58 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    I had the same problem.

    I have bought (very cheap) ans installed "Music Rating Widget", from the AppStore, which allow you to rate from the notification center while playing :-)

  • by UnlostWanderer ,

    UnlostWanderer UnlostWanderer Sep 19, 2016 2:59 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 2:59 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    Exactly! Same here. I'm outraged as well. Apple's gonna have to symply bring this feature back. It's just too important to audiophiles.

  • by Amon.vm,

    Amon.vm Amon.vm Sep 19, 2016 3:07 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 3:07 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    does anyone know how and where I can ask Apple to get the star rating back?

    this just *****

  • by Paul Richards4,

    Paul Richards4 Paul Richards4 Sep 19, 2016 3:42 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 3:42 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    In the absence of star ratings in iOS, i see lots of messages here about using third party apps to rate your music ... BUT...

    my guess is that apple will either read these messages, listen to the feedback, and do an about-turn by putting star ratings back ...   OR...

    will carry on regardless (which is far more 'apple-like') and take star ratings out of iTunes too..

    If they do the latter, will these third party apps still work, or are their ratings imported into iTunes?

     

    Bottom line from my perspective is that third party apps may be a temporary fix, but the permanent fix is to bring the ratings back.

    And while the official way to get this to happen is to send feedback through the 'proper channels', if apple host 'official discussion forums' like this and then do not monitor them for ideas / opinion / mood etc.. then that would be ridiculous, bordering on negligent.

     

    Bring them back, Apple. They were your idea, They were a great idea, People have been using them for years, and if you take them away a lot of people will have iTunes playlists that just don't work any more.

  • by UnlostWanderer ,

    UnlostWanderer UnlostWanderer Sep 19, 2016 3:57 AM in response to Amon.vm
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    Sep 19, 2016 3:57 AM in response to Amon.vm
  • by pegaudet,

    pegaudet pegaudet Sep 19, 2016 4:20 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 4:20 AM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    I agonized over which phone I should get (Android or Apple) this past spring, and decided to stay with Apple, because at least, Apple knew how to handle music right.

     

    To do the various things I wanted to do in Android, I would need to buy about $20 worth of apps because each would do one thing or the other right but fall short in other areas. I did not want to have to juggle 5 or more apps for playlists, star ratings, etc.

     

    I'm really disappointed to see so many people here resorting to buying third party apps to restore such basic functionality.

     

    If this is indeed the trend Apple is heading in, then I will certainly be going toward Android and other desktop apps like rthyhmbox when it's time to replace this phone. I'll probably move away completely from the mac world and stick with Linux.

  • by the real rpb,

    the real rpb the real rpb Sep 19, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Jonah Lee Walker
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    Sep 19, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Jonah Lee Walker

    Yes, the Star Rating is essential for me too.

     

    In early times of iTunes I recognized that the Star rating – unlike any other tag or information – is not written to the MP3 file itself. So I add the stars to my Genre tags (Pop *, Pop **, and so on). This way my stars "survived" any iTunes Library recreation. (in fact, I had Stars instead of Genre before iTunes introduced them at all)

     

    Since using the iPhone, I use the Stars for checking and rating new music. I set the Stars on my phone, so the rating will be synced back to my Mac (again, it's the only information that works / syncs both ways!). By the way, Stars help  me to see which songs are checked at all.

     

    This is gone in iOS 10. Arghl. Grmph.

     

    My current workaround: I add the song to a local iPhone Playlist, this will be synced back to the Mac. It's a lot more to tap and quite unelegant, but it works as long as Apple brings us the Stars back...

     

    PS: Did anyone ever get familiar with the additional "album stars" system (or understood it at all)?

  • by cruithne3753,

    cruithne3753 cruithne3753 Sep 19, 2016 5:02 PM in response to the real rpb
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    Sep 19, 2016 5:02 PM in response to the real rpb

    The album star rating system is a buggy feature.  It gives the album a star rating based on the average of your ratings of the tracks.

     

    You can set your own album rating, possibly as a quick way to apply a universal rating to all tracks on an album.  Because doing so will give all songs a light gray rating, and treat them as rated in regards to smart playlists.

     

    Anyway, most of the time the album stars are grayed out, just calculating the average, not applying it to the whole album.  But, sometimes iTunes auto-magically applies user (blue) stars to an album, which applies that average rating to all unrated all the songs on the album.  Which of course can cause all sorts of trouble.  Syncing songs you don't want, unsyncing songs you do.

     

    If you hard-code your ratings into the songs, it's easy enough to fix.  Create a smart playlist, that shows all rated songs without the hard-coded ratings.  Put it in Song view. Show album artwork.  Next to the album artwork will be the album star rating.  If it's blue, drag away the stars.

     

    I made a graphic that might help: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3vg1mq7l9m1i0z/album%20rating%2001-03.jpg?dl=0

     

    Hope it helps.

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