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Sep 21, 2016 5:22 PM in response to agherreraby Proggie,Yup you are the 3rd person (including me) who's experienced this. What machine do you have? One person says that it works for them but they have a 2015+ MacBook Pro where as I have a late 2013 and the other person has a MacBook 2014.
Aperture remembers when you are in full screen mode so if you relaunch it, it will continue to crash. So you could start it up with a brand new library, which for me doesn't crash in full screen mode, and then disable full screen mode. Then if you start up your original library it won't crash on launch anymore. But it will continue to crash when you go into full screen mode again. For me it also crashes when opening Metadata profiles and displaying the Inspector HUB.
I'm going to file a report once I get a new beta of Sierra, and hopefully it will get fixed. But I think I'm going to start preparing for a migration to Lightroom.
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Sep 21, 2016 6:12 PM in response to Proggieby xtravoice,Anyone successfully using Aperture with Sierra with a MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012)?
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Sep 21, 2016 7:45 PM in response to Nikontravelerby macfa,Partially only...
If you want to get data info, or choose full screen, or edit any file, forget about it.
Now we can say: Aperture is really dead!.
I am deeply disappointed.
Sad but true, a powerful tool like this, being thrown in the trash.
I would hope for some miracle, to bright those people minds, but miracles don't exist...
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Sep 21, 2016 8:50 PM in response to Proggieby agherrera,Sierra Cronicals Continue: Yep so after complete rebuild of library it opened , but AGAIN gives the "error in library" message as soon as it opened. At least I am able to open the program now and edit files seems , so far ..... ok. Clearly "F" key is off limits as it will melt down aperture. Also "w" key for tab switches. Don't touch it! It really really annoys me apple has gone down this road. Ticking off it most loyal die-hard pro customers who only want to use Apple's very own great Aperture program. Neither Capture One nor Lightroom are nearly as intuitive nor efficient as Aperture despite that C1 is more powerful. And to offer "Photos" as an alternative...thats a joke and perhaps the worst photo program out there. So quite devastated by apple's uncaring policy. To have hundreds of billions in the bank at home and abroad and chose not to maintain a single simple program with a loyal top price hardware buying customer base?!!! Really Apple!!@#? Like a weeks worth of coder patch time to ensure compatibility is going to bankrupt you? Thats ridiculous and having owned apples since the company existed year 1, I can only say what a shame. Shame on apple for dropping the ball on both Final Cut and Aperture! Someone with coding experience Please PLEASE work some magic and deliver us a patch to keep this boat afloat!
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Sep 21, 2016 9:25 PM in response to Nikontravelerby Pianojerry,I had exactly same crashes.
iMac 27 Retina Late 2014
Macbook Pro 15 Late 2013
Do not use full screen mode to prevent "Crash and Black Screen"!
Repair or rebulid of aperture library can not fix the problem.
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Sep 21, 2016 11:53 PM in response to agherreraby léonie,Just loaded Sierra and Aperture crashed right away. If you hit the full screen "F" key it seems to trigger the crash. Cannot get Aperture to turn on at all now, completely went to black screen
The Full Screen Mode is probably stored in the Aperture Preferences File.
Try, if you can get Aperture to launch again, if you reset the Preferences file as described here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201289
Steps to reset preference settings
To reset your Aperture user preference settings to their original state, do the following:
- Quit Aperture.
- In the Finder choose "Go to folder" from the Go menu.
- Type ~/Library/Preferences in the "Go to the folder" field. Press the Go button.
- Remove the "com.apple.Aperture.plist" file from the Preferences folder.
- Restart your computer if you're using OS X Mavericks (or newer)
The locations of your Aperture libraries are stored in the preference file listed above. If you have stored your library outside the default location of ~/Pictures/Aperture Library, make a note of where the library is before deleting the Aperture preferences file. If you have more than one library, you can bring up a dialog to choose which one to load by pressing Option immediately after you open Aperture.
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Sep 22, 2016 1:43 AM in response to agherreraby In_between_dreams,You said it brother....
I think you have summed up the sentiments of many.
Aperture, C1 & Lightroom all have their strengths. I personally find Aperture to offer a very pleasing workspace & a joy to work with.
I have Capture One Pro (9.3), do I use it? I tinker with it but keep going back to Aperture.
Anyhow, we all know our days with Aperture will always be numbered....
I have returned my MacBook Air back to 10.11, of course Aperture is working again. I find a working Aperture much more appealing than what the features of Sierra has to offer me.
Maybe I'll get another year....
Maybe an update in Sierra will sort some of the current issues with Aperture.
I have sent the issues back to Apple. Thinking positive thoughts, thinking positive thoughts!
I'm hoping to see a release from 'Affinity Serif', the have announced a DAM product to be released soon. They have done sterling work with Affinity Photo & Affinity Designer.
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Sep 22, 2016 5:39 AM in response to léonieby agherrera,thank you very much for this help. I will give it a try!
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Sep 22, 2016 9:05 AM in response to Nikontravelerby Nikontraveler,I wonder if anyone from Apple software development is reading this. I would have thought that Apple would have learned a very valuable lesson from the Final Cut Pro debacle. Do the program developers even care about the millions of professionals around the world that use Apple Software and hardware? Gilbert Frank "Gil" Amelio Tried to market Apple products to consumers like a PC with a lot of different "Levels" of Mac systems. It failed. While the everyday consumers are extremely valuable, it is the many entertainment, design, and other professionals that also contribute to the growth of Apple and all of it's products. Don't leave the professional users behind with lame consumer software. I just hope someone from Apple actually reads these user input communities. Bring back either Aperture 4 or Photos "Pro". I would gladly pay another $79.00 for either. Pardon my opine but I have to do it.
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Sep 22, 2016 9:35 AM in response to Nikontravelerby John Purlia,You're not alone here, especially when you consider the emphasis Apple is putting into the camera capabilities of the iPhone 7 and touting "shot on an iPhone" in their ads. It's as if Apple is betting on "we'll do it all for you in the camera" as a photo strategy without considering the need for outside creative tools that are essential for professionals. It is especially laughable when Apple recently showed Lightroom being used to edit photos on an iPhone during the recent launch event. It is simply ridiculous to seriously consider editing a 12 megapixel image on a 4-5" screen. The demonstration was meaningless for both professionals and consumers alike. Professional work is done on the desktop with powerful tools. This is why it continues to be important to communicate complaints and suggestions to Apple directly.
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Sep 22, 2016 9:47 AM in response to David Straitby jfaughnan,FWIW I wrote up a compilation of known issues based on reviewing Leonie's posts:
http://tech.kateva.org/2016/07/aperture-in-el-capitan-not-showing.html
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Sep 22, 2016 10:11 AM in response to jfaughnanby léonie,Great work! Thanks for the link.
One minor correction. You wrote "You can no longer order print products from Aperture (Yosemite too)"
It is worse than that. We cannot order print products anymore from Aperture at all, independent of any system version. Apple killed the Print Products Store support for Aperture completely. That was the final nail to the coffin.
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Sep 22, 2016 10:16 AM in response to léonieby Nikontraveler,I'll verify that. I just tried and it is indeed dead. :-)
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Sep 22, 2016 10:20 AM in response to Nikontravelerby Nikontraveler,Just as a note. I have plans to buy a Nikon DL24-500 camera when it comes out. It shoots Nikon .nef RAW. One of the other issues with continuing to use Aperture is that all Apple Raw updates will not work in Aperture as far as I know. I do not get updates anymore at least in Yosemite. So I will be forced to use Nikon software with the new camera. I only shoot RAW in all instances. I just updated CameraPro app for my iPhone 6+. This app now allows shooting RAW on iPhone 6+. I just uploaded a couple of test RAW pictures to Aperture 3.6 on Yosemite. Apple was smart enough to use the standard Adobe "DNG" or RAW file. And guess what? Aperture sees this file and I can edit it with RAW fine tuning. Oh Joy, happiness. :-)