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Q: So Safari Stand doesn't work with Safari 10

I'm hoping the http://hetima.com/safaristand/ site will update to Sierra asap. Given how may apple users have complained over the years about Apple dropping the favicons from it's tab bars you'd think it would listen and bring them back in the new Safari version!

 

Anybody know of any other way to bring back favicons to Safari tabs?

Posted on Sep 21, 2016 12:19 AM

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Q: So Safari Stand doesn't work with Safari 10

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  • by Alf Megson,

    Alf Megson Alf Megson Sep 21, 2016 4:17 AM in response to media_lush
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    Sep 21, 2016 4:17 AM in response to media_lush

    For me, it is the ability to disable full width tabs.

     

    I can't tell you how my heart sank when I opened Safari 10 and got the notification that SafariStand was no longer working.

     

    Full width tabs may ( I stress, may) look attractive to some people but they are a pragmatic nightmare. Two hours in and I'm getting frustrated and a little anxious. I'm guessing that as Hetima didn't release a version of SafariStand compatible with El Capitan, any further updates could be a long time coming. I just hope that another developer recognises the hopes of some (if not many) and creates a fix.

  • by Hawaiian_Starman,

    Hawaiian_Starman Hawaiian_Starman Sep 21, 2016 2:38 PM in response to media_lush
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    Sep 21, 2016 2:38 PM in response to media_lush

    If you are using Sierra, know that SIMBL is incompatible with the OS. Discovered that after upgrading my iMac to Sierra. That means SafariStand, which requires SIMBL, is DOA.

     

    I am able to use SafariStand with Safari 9/El Capitan on my MacBook Pro. However, same is not true for Safari 10. The developer may need to update SafariStand for compatibility. I sent a tweet to the developer. If you are using Safari 10 on El Capitan, consider doing the same.

     

    I too want the favicon and custom tab options returned to Safari. Also, a dated download folder as offered in SafariStand would be a plus. I've sent feedback to Apple's Safari team. Consider doing the same.

  • by Hawaiian_Starman,

    Hawaiian_Starman Hawaiian_Starman Sep 21, 2016 2:50 PM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 21, 2016 2:50 PM in response to Alf Megson

    Even though no mention of compatibility by the developer, SafariStand is compatible with El Capitan/Safari 9. This is true for tabs, favicons and dated download folders. As I don't use any other features, I don't know if they are compatible.

  • by Alf Megson,

    Alf Megson Alf Megson Sep 21, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Hawaiian_Starman
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    Sep 21, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Hawaiian_Starman

    I'm actually still on Yosemite and probably the only reason I didn't update to El Capitan is that there didn't seem to be a version of SafariStand which was compatible - at least not according to the developer's website.

     

    I just discovered that my girlfriend also had Safari updated automatically and she is not happy about it either.

     

    SafariStand adds so much that ought to be integral to Safari but also adds a lot of functionality for users who like to expand beyond the confines such as keyword search.

     

    Anyway, I will Tweet to Hetima.

  • by Hawaiian_Starman,

    Hawaiian_Starman Hawaiian_Starman Sep 21, 2016 5:11 PM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 21, 2016 5:11 PM in response to Alf Megson

    I used the Yosemite version of SafariStand on El Capitan with no issue with favicons, tab spacing, scrolling via tabs or download folder dates.

     

    Yesterday, I upgraded to Safari 10 after updating my clone backup. Glad I did as it was quite simple to revert to Safari 9 again.

  • by Herbert,

    Herbert Herbert Sep 22, 2016 8:33 AM in response to media_lush
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    Sep 22, 2016 8:33 AM in response to media_lush

    I just posted this message on the Safari feedback page, let's see for a change if I get a reply this time:

     

    "Dear Safari team,

     

    I have asked this question many times over the last several Safari updates, but have yet to hear back from you:

     

    What's really the reason you have removed favicons from Safari tabs?

     

    As a long-time Mac user I fail to understand why you would impose additional complexity on so many of us who have complained about this simple and so helpful feature of having a visual aid to quickly find the one tab I'm looking for among the many I have open.

     

    Many of us unhappy Safari users have used SafariStand to get favicons back, but macOS 10.12 has now closed the door for this workaround as well.

     

    Why must Safari be the only Mac browser that doesn't offer this feature?

     

    Please let me know what I can do and help to bring this feature back.

     

    Thank you."

  • by Alf Megson,

    Alf Megson Alf Megson Sep 23, 2016 5:28 PM in response to Herbert
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    Sep 23, 2016 5:28 PM in response to Herbert

    Well, I feel only slightly regretful in saying that for me, this was the last straw and I just spent an hour or so ditching Safari in favour of Chrome; transferring bookmarks, finding equivalent extensions and configuring them.

     

    Why hang around just to be slapped about?!

     

    Some of SafariStand's features such as keyword searches are built in and a brief scan through the Chrome extensions left me feeling lie a butterfly released from a jam jar.

  • by Herbert,

    Herbert Herbert Sep 23, 2016 7:59 PM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 23, 2016 7:59 PM in response to Alf Megson

    @Alf Megson

     

    Oh darn! I saw this coming since a while, but I still was in denial as I could not imagine that Apple would show their users such a cold shoulder, hard to believe really. This makes no sense to me.

     

    First thing tomorrow morning I too will switch ... Chrome? Firefox? ... time will tell.

     

    Sad.

  • by Herbert,

    Herbert Herbert Sep 24, 2016 5:54 AM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 24, 2016 5:54 AM in response to Alf Megson

    One more question ... transitioning to Chrome, how did you manage the many passwords and logins you may have saved in your Safari Keychain?

  • by Alf Megson,

    Alf Megson Alf Megson Sep 27, 2016 2:33 PM in response to media_lush
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    Sep 27, 2016 2:33 PM in response to media_lush

    Because my main reason not to upgrade to El Capitan no longer applied (what I believed was SafariStand no longer working under El Capitan), I decided to install El Capitan anyway (having discovered too late that SafariStand does work).

     

    Anyway, after I installed El Capitan, I realised that it had installed Safari 9.1.2 and that I could stop App Store installing Safari 10. However, that would leave me with a version of Safari which needed the security update to 9.1.3 and the only option was to update to Safari 10. It's quite a ridiculous situation that I will be sticking with Chrome because I cannot install an intermediate update instead.

     

    Incidentally, I got a notification of a question from Herbert but whenever I log in, it disappears; so, just so that Herbert doesn't think that I am  rude and ignoring him, the answer to the question about bookmarks is that I use 1Password and so I used that to auto complete for me and each time Chrome asked if I wanted to save it as well. I didn't let Safari log me into every site as some sites I didn't want to be logged into.

  • by Herbert,

    Herbert Herbert Sep 27, 2016 4:11 PM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 27, 2016 4:11 PM in response to Alf Megson

    Thank you for your response Alf, much appreciated. I guess should look into 1Password as well, many are recommending this app.

  • by Alf Megson,

    Alf Megson Alf Megson Sep 27, 2016 4:17 PM in response to Herbert
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    Safari
    Sep 27, 2016 4:17 PM in response to Herbert

    There are other password managers available.

     

    Also, I think it may be possible to do in-app as I seem to remember a password option )or at least seeing it mentioned somewhere) but I didn't want every password imported so I went the long way around.

     

    There is something about it here which I hope might be of some help:

     

    https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95418?hl=en-GB

  • by DamienNY,

    DamienNY DamienNY Sep 27, 2016 9:58 PM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 27, 2016 9:58 PM in response to Alf Megson

    safari stand does in fact work w/el cap. Like yourself, I wouldn't of upgraded otherwise.

    Unfortunately everything I've read says the annual updated OS, MacPlanned Obsolesce or whatever it's called now, as well as Safari 10 do not work with SS.

     

    Depending on the year of the mac you're on, you aren't missing much upgrading. If you like Yosemite, stay with it. The ultimate goal is to phase you out of your hardware. Whatever they say the minimum hardware requirements are for the OS, I'd stop a couple years ahead of it and stop upgrading.

     

    At a minimum since the annual deadline is now the priority ahead of properly QA'ing the OS releases, I wouldn't update to the new version at least a few months after it's released. Just my .02.

  • by DamienNY,

    DamienNY DamienNY Sep 27, 2016 10:12 PM in response to Alf Megson
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    Sep 27, 2016 10:12 PM in response to Alf Megson

    Opera is a really cool browser and can use the chrome web store with it. I've found Chrome to be pretty bloated (least on a mac, IE-30 instances of Google Chrome helper running every time you open it) and once chrome stopped allowing 3rd party extensions, a lot of the benefit for me was lost. To each his own, just my experience.

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