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Sep 24, 2016 12:45 PM in response to VickeVireGby jamespaski,I agree that Sierra is a good OS; a new look for the Macs.
I may have to review some apps that may cause the flickering loading screen. Uninstall them and may be replace the apps with a similar one in functionality.
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Sep 24, 2016 12:49 PM in response to ramharieshby Barney-15E,Did you want help fixing your Mac, or did you just want to complain? There is an app for the latter.
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Sep 24, 2016 12:49 PM in response to jamespaskiby VickeVireG,Great!
Just to clarify, I was not responding to you, but to ramhariesh.
Best regards!
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Sep 24, 2016 12:56 PM in response to ramharieshby notcloudy,ramhariesh wrote:
The worst OS that apple has ever made. MacBook Pro(Early 2015) model is not shutting down properly without a hard shutdown, after installing macOS Sierra. It always shows a window saying that There is some problem in my MacBook and should be shutdown. Where can I get OS X El Capitan? After installing macOS Sierra, my MacBook has become slower than before. Could you guys please fix the crappy and buggy OS that you have just released?
On an operating system of any type -- some users will have no issues -- and some will have really bad problems - it depends on your setup - how much space you have on your hard drive - and what software you are running.
So - when you start up your computer - open activity monitor - and watch the disk activity -- also network activity as your system may already be trying to pull down an automatic update -- wait for the activity to finish - also recheck all of your system preferences as apple does default them to what they like not what you like.
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Sep 24, 2016 1:04 PM in response to ramharieshby Daniel Ebeck,I also have a Mac with no eject key. Rather than trust to the vagaries of the OS determining how long I have held the power key down before it decides that I want to sleep/restart/kill power, I press ctrl-power. This brings up the shutdown options dialogue immediately.
Also I, along with 99.5% of the Sierra user base*, have had no problems (yet) after the upgrade.
* I made this statistic up. But who knows, it might be true.
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Sep 24, 2016 1:08 PM in response to Daniel Ebeckby Barney-15E,Also I, along with 99.5% of the Sierra user base*, have had no problems (yet) after the upgrade.
* I made this statistic up. But who knows, it might be true.
I've heard that 73.4% of all statistics found on the web may be true, but also may be false.
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Sep 25, 2016 12:02 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby notcloudy,Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
The trade press have published opinions, mostly indicating that except for a few minor problems, the upgrade to Sierra has been remarkably trouble-free. They disagree that this release is "crappy and buggy".
The problems that you are seeing are not typical. Some of them may be related to your unique configuration. If you could provide a bit more information, Readers would be happy to help you work through them, if that is what you wish.
Trade press may not be using the upgraded mac as their work device - simply one where the upgrade is tested - very controlled environment.
This goes for any operating system - and software system -- where programs/applications work well in an environment where the user fits into some norm - but -- then there are the users that put it to the test & that is where the fixes should come from if the supplier has staff that can work with users to replicate the problem or understand why it happens.
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Sep 25, 2016 12:44 PM in response to notcloudyby Grant Bennet-Alder,I was not trying to justify what the trade press does or does not do, so much as suggest that this release is not UNIVERSALLY "crappy and buggy" for all purposes.
When a User finds it crappy and buggy for their use, it may be because of their specific setup.
Readers are eager to find out why a poster thinks it is bad, and work through the problems encountered in search of solutions (or specific bug reports).
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Sep 25, 2016 2:19 PM in response to ramharieshby Daniel Ebeck,Things to Try:
- Flickering Screen / Not shutting down cleanly :
Do a SMC reset. The flickering screen may be be a firmware/driver issue that needs to be reloaded. Reset the System Management Controller (SMC) on your Mac - Apple Support - Slow loading / Poor Performance:
- How much data do you have? All major OS upgrades involve extensive indexing, cache creation and other housekeeping. For systems with a lot of data this can take hours or days. Photos in particular requires lots of processing time for this upgrade. I always leave my Mac at least overnight before I try to do anything with it. Also check with the app developer to see if they have released an update to fix issues with Sierra. Remember, it's the app developers' job to ensure compatibility, not Apple's.
- Some Problem when you log in :
Please post a screenshot of the error, so that we can see what the problem is. A relevant log file or Etrecheck summary would also be good.
- Flickering Screen / Not shutting down cleanly :
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Sep 25, 2016 5:13 PM in response to ramharieshby applewarm,Not Sierra's fault. I'm running it on a 2011 MBP here, it works PERFECTLY. No crap, no bugs, no lags.
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Sep 25, 2016 6:14 PM in response to ramharieshby digitalplumber,I have to disagree with your opinion of Sierra, I can't fault your experiences as those are your own based on your hardware, software and the condition of your computer. I have been working with Apple Software releases on the Mac since version 1.0 - back in the day when we had to convert the binary programs into hexadecimal representations to send via a modem and the reconvert on the receiving side to use the OS or application as appropriate. Usually we were trying out very beta software and the Apple Software Engineers usually put a disclaimer on the very beta releases, only install this on a disk that you feel comfortable scraping mud off your boots with. We didn't have hard drives at the time, only 400K 3.5 inch floppies.
And I can tell you that Sierra was a breeze to install and configure compared to that process. So in essence before I upgrade any system I triple check the hard drives to ensure that they are not throwing any I/O errors, system RAM is sufficient to handle new features and requirements, and all unneeded software is removed, deinstalled properly.
If your system isn't running perfectly before an upgrade, there is little reason to expect that it will run perfectly after an upgrade. So your mileage may vary, mine is absolutely great and I'm running on a late 2010 iMac, I sincerely doubt that there are too many six year old PCs running Windows10. Best regards!
digitalplumber
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Sep 26, 2016 10:24 AM in response to ramharieshby woodmeister50,Just to add my 50cents (inflation), I have installed macOS Sierra
on 4 Macs:
late 2013 27", i5 iMac (main computer for doing pretty much anything)
early 2011 13" 2.7GHz i7 MacBook Pro (similar to iMac and pretty much a backup for my iMac)
2011 Mac Mini Server (HTPC)
2010 Mac Mini (file server, iTunes Home Sharing master)
On all these, Sierra is running just fine and not having any issues. However, they were
also running just fine on El Capitan.
Btw, I also do not have any AV software, helper apps, or any other type of "haxie"
that almost always will screw up any version of OS X eventually.
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Sep 26, 2016 3:22 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alderby notcloudy,Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
I was not trying to justify what the trade press does or does not do, so much as suggest that this release is not UNIVERSALLY "crappy and buggy" for all purposes.
When a User finds it crappy and buggy for their use, it may be because of their specific setup.
Readers are eager to find out why a poster thinks it is bad, and work through the problems encountered in search of solutions (or specific bug reports).
If I had the problems I had in the last year with Snow Leopard when i first installed it -- it would come up as buggy - and horrible (I have other posts on it) - the logs only showed a finder-memory leak - as anything valid.
It is actually the finder that freezes - and the 2 thinks that cause it - Spotlight/Finder getting behind on indexing during rapid file change or removal - and the unix have of the system doing housekeeping on the drive.
Software bugs can lurk for years without being triggered - as long as the user does not go outside of what is considered normal.
Software with bugs can run fine for long periods of time - as long as you don't go outside what is considered the norm.
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Sep 26, 2016 5:50 PM in response to ramharieshby BrainSel,Hi, ramhariesh.
Try this - Problems with macOS Sierra? This fix may help you.
It got rid of all my macOS Sierra weirdness.
Hope this helps,
- BrainSel