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Q: cmd+tab

After upgrading to Sierra, cmd+tab for app switching is not working as it used to in El Capitan & previous OS versions. When I select an app using cmd-tab, it will just show that app name in the menu bar, but the window itself will not open/come up front. I use spaces and have checked mission control prefs and nothing there I can see to get this corrected. In addition, in previous version, if I switched from one space to another, then Finder would go to the background (since it is assigned to all desktops) and the other app in that specific desktop would be in the forefront. That is no longer the case after Sierra. (example in the screenshot, I cmd-tabbed to itunes, which shows in the menu bar but didn't switch to itunes)

 

Screen Shot 2016-09-24 at 19.31.19.JPG

 

Has anyone else been facing this and/or suggest

 

Thanks in advance

MacBook Pro (17-inch Early 2011), macOS Sierra (10.12), with Time Capsule 1 TB

Posted on Sep 24, 2016 7:04 AM

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  • by Luis Sequeira1,Solvedanswer

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Sep 24, 2016 7:12 AM in response to liquidmetalin
    Level 6 (12,436 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 24, 2016 7:12 AM in response to liquidmetalin

    Go to System Preferences->Mission Control and see if

     

    "When switching to an application, switch to a Space with open windows for the application"

     

    is CHECKED. If it not, then you need to check it.

     

    If it is, try unchecking and rechecking to see if sticks.

  • by liquidmetalin,

    liquidmetalin liquidmetalin Sep 24, 2016 12:50 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1
    Level 1 (25 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 24, 2016 12:50 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    Luis thanks for your suggestion; it seems to have worked. I say 'seems' because am having another glitch which I'm not sure if it is related to mission control settings. So cmd-tab takes now takes to the app selected and the open window.

     

    However when in any space/desktop and there are multiple app windows open then when I use mission control to switch between apps in the same desktop that doesn't seem to work as expected. Example: I have Finder, Sys Pref and Disk Utility all open in one desktop, where Finder is 'assigned' to 'all desktops', while the other two are 'assigned' to 'none' (right click Dock icon for each app and then Options). If I 'mission control' to bring a Finder window to the front, then the last app which had been in front earlier (from the other two apps) come to the forefront instead.

     

    Is this something that others are facing too? Is it a bug or some setting that become corrupted by the upgrade?

    Thanks

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Sep 24, 2016 1:08 PM in response to liquidmetalin
    Level 6 (12,436 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 24, 2016 1:08 PM in response to liquidmetalin

    Just to clarify: when you say "use Mission Control" to bring a Finder window to the front, you mean actually entering Mission Control and clicking on the window? And then instead of Finder the other application comes to the front?

     

    I have never seen this. No idea why it is happening.

    I do not, however, use Mission Control all that much. I switch applications using Command-tab all the time, though; this never caused the wrong application coming to the front either.

  • by liquidmetalin,

    liquidmetalin liquidmetalin Sep 24, 2016 11:45 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1
    Level 1 (25 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 24, 2016 11:45 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

     

    Just to clarify: when you say "use Mission Control" to bring a Finder window to the front, you mean actually entering Mission Control and clicking on the window? And then instead of Finder the other application comes to the front?

     

     

    I use the 4 finger up swipe or FN-F9 and click on the window. Yes, instead of Finder the other app used to come to the front. I now assigned all such apps as Dock App icon>Options>Assign to>All Desktops and it has mitigated the situation somewhat, though not entirely to my satisfaction, since, 

    1. It still shows erratic behaviour when other apps with different assignments are open (e.g. if Safari is assigned to open only in Desktop 2, then the whole thing goes for a toss)
    2. Is not how it was BEFORE upgrade to Sierra.

     

    Is there some plist or something that I could delete and restart? Though I really don't want to go down that rabbit hole.

    Thanks

  • by tygb ,

    tygb Sep 25, 2016 12:33 AM in response to liquidmetalin
    Level 2 (398 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 25, 2016 12:33 AM in response to liquidmetalin

    Please follow the settings as in screen shot . make sure of the setting ( show desktop - ) , keep it as dash .

    Screen Shot 2016-09-25 at 1.00.41 PM.png

    Thanks !

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Sep 25, 2016 8:21 AM in response to liquidmetalin
    Level 6 (12,436 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 25, 2016 8:21 AM in response to liquidmetalin

    I cannot reproduce this. Every time I clicked on a window in Mission Control, that window has come to the front.

     

    You may try restarting in Safe Mode and see if the problem also occurs;

    then restart normally again and see if it makes a difference.

     

    If everything works in Safe Mode but not when booted normally then it is a safe bet that some third party software is causing this. You may want to run Etrecheck and post its report here; it often suggests possible causes for unexpected behavior. (Etrecheck is a utilitu by a respected member of this community to help troubleshoot problems).

  • by liquidmetalin,

    liquidmetalin liquidmetalin Sep 27, 2016 11:22 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
    Level 1 (25 points)
    Mac OS X
    Sep 27, 2016 11:22 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    here is the Etrecheck report with 'other problem' selected from the options

     

    EtreCheck version: 3.0.5 (309)

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    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

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    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

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  • by skernroom,

    skernroom skernroom Sep 29, 2016 7:43 AM in response to liquidmetalin
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Sep 29, 2016 7:43 AM in response to liquidmetalin

    similar issue here w/ sierra.  when i mouse to a corner to bring up mission control, and then click on my apple mail window, the window jumps behind the last open app window.  so annoying.  tried the sys prefs checkbox you mentioned and no fix.  i don't have the issue when cmd+tab - only when clicking the mail window from mission control.