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4789 Views 23 Replies Latest reply: Apr 23, 2007 11:31 PM by kgelner
If you have Photoshop CS2, set it up as your external editor in Aperture's Preferences.
Then select the image in Aperture, right click and Open with external editor. That will send the image to Photoshop. In there enlarge the image to the printing size at 300dpi. You can then sharpen it using Smart Sharpen or using your favorite method.
It might be also better if you send the image from Aperture to Photoshop with no sharpening applied at all. Do it all the sharpening in Phothoshop.
Once you save and close the image, Aperture will refresh the result, allowing you to print at 300dpi.iMac 20" 2.1 Ghz 1.5Gb RAM - Mac OS 10.4.8
Thanks for the reply. I do not have Photoshop and was trying to avoid having to get it. I was afraid though that Aperture does not have a resizing feature. Does Photoshop elements have a resizing feature or is some other add on program like Geniune Fractals recommended?
I have seen discussions here about exporting the image and changing the DPI setting. Is this something that will resize the image? Sorry to be asking stupid questions, but I am learning (mostly how much there is still to learn). It is like an episode of LOST, just when you think you have an answer, you get 3 more questions.
P.S. I meant Greetings FROM SC. We'uns don't talk to good down here sometimes.IMAC G5, V2, Mac OS X (10.4.8), HP B9180
There are several progams which will solve your program. Alien Skin offers a free trial to most of their programs. http://www.alienskin.com/blowup/index.html.
Also there is Genuine Fractals, I think even Studio Artist which is an amazing program for artists or want to be artists but have no traditional talent-like me offers a way to enlarge files. You do not have to buy PSP, maybe PSP Elements might do it?
TimDual Processor ms1GHz G4, Mac OS X (10.4.2)
IMO in addition to Aperture every DSLR photog needs at least Photoshop Elements, which will do exactly what you need and much more for $80 or so.
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If you're serious about photography, Photoshop is an absolute 100% must-have.
However, upsampling won't help you very much, if at all. You should be able to make fantastic 13x19 prints from a D70 nef with no upsampling. Keep in mind that the reported DPI doesn't really tell you anything particularly useful.
So, the first thing to do is to take the original NEF and make your 13x19 print with no upsampling. It will probably look really good. If it doesn't, think about your printer settings first and foremost. Are you set to an appropriate print space? Are you using the correct paper settings? Are you using a suitably high printer resolution?
So the big question - what's wrong with your 13x19 prints? Your message makes it seem like you haven't even made the print yet at all. If that's the case, make a print and report your results. If you've made prints and you're not happy, tell us what's wrong with them so we can troubleshoot. I can all but guarantee that upsampling is not going to be the answer - after all it won't create detail, it will only blur what's there already.g5 2.0DP 4.5G RAM, x800 vidcard/MacbookPro 2GHz 2GB Ram 256 VRAM, Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Thank you all for your help so far. I spent several hours over the weekend trying different things. Here is what has happened so far.
I got the printer last week and had a nice 8.5" x 11" print the 3rd time out. I messed up the color management settings, but got that figured out. I was printing from a NEF file that I had adjusted only the colors in Aperture. Of course being excited with the results, I loaded a piece of 13" x 19" paper and let rip. The sharpness of the print was terrible. It looked like everything as fuzzy. Now I was printing on the smooth surface fine art paper in 13 x 19 versus the advanced glossy in 8.5 x 11. I did change the profiles in the print set up, but did not do any sharpness adjustments. In the Aperture print dialog, I checked max. DPI and it was showing something in 150+ range for 13x19 versus 280+ for the 8.5x11.
I do not have Photoshop or elements. I was doing all of this through Aperture. Yesterday, I did download Gimp and tried upsizing a file in Gimp to increase the pixels. Richard, you are right, it just blurred what was there. I tried again with sharpening in Gimp and it helped but, it has that digital look to it and it is really crappy. Again, not having used Photoshop before, how much of what adjustment you apply is still a learning experience for me.
I have been working in the B&W darkroom for years. Got the D70s a year+ ago. Working in iPhoto got me excited about the possibilites of the digital darkroom. I was printing to an Epson C86 with reasonable results, but decided to finally get a better printer. I purchased Aperture knowing it was not as powerful an editor as Photoshop, but that it had several capabilities more advanced than iPhoto, which was meeting most of my needs.
Can someone suggest a print workflow or what settings to check? I have read in several forums that getting sharp 13x19 should be no problem from a D70s RAW file. I was under the impression that I would just knock a nice (as in sharp) print out, no problem.
I am printing from Aperture. I choose the B9180 as the printer. Set the paper profile, size and system managed options. I use the max DPI. When I put in the paper size, Aperture puts in the calculated (?) DPI. I tried putting in a higher DPI, but it comes back with a message saying that their are not enough pixels. The NEF files in in the 5+ Mb range. I do not remember the pixels shown for the file, but somewhere in the 2000+ x 1800+ range off the top of my head. Maybe I have something set wrong in the camera? I would appreciate any comments or help.
BobbyIMAC G5, V2, Mac OS X (10.4.8), HP B9180
not remember the pixels shown for the file, but
somewhere in the 2000+ x 1800+ range off the top of
my head. Maybe I have something set wrong in the
That doesn't sound right. 2000x1800 = 3.6MP. Since the D70s is a 6.1MP camera, you are either shooting at half the native resolution or the image is being down sampled somewhere along the line.
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Well, obviously the larger you print your file the lower the DPI will be, so your dpi number sounds dead-on - however you should be able to make nice crisp prints on any decent inkjet at that size/resolution.
Aperture's printing system isn't very good of course, so for best results printing from Photoshop would be a good idea. You also should be sharpening based on your final output size, and obviously you should be evaluating sharpness based on typical viewing distance rather than with a loupe...
D70 files are roughly 3000x2000 - so if you're working with 2000/1800 on the long side, you've done some extreme cropping which would also explain the degradation in print quality at that size.
Good luck.g5 2.0DP 4.5G RAM, x800 vidcard/MacbookPro 2GHz 2GB Ram 256 VRAM, Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Bobby, I have the same camera and have printed 13X19 on several occasions with good results. The dots per inch sounds about right (dividing 13X19 by 6.1 Mpixels and taking the square root gives 155). Is it possible the print heads are not aligned correctly? For printing from Aperture, I have a color profile I've produced for my printer, and use that profile, not "system managed". However, that should only affect color reproduction, not resolution. Seems to me something besides Aperture is wrong here.
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Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2007 11:54 AM (in response to David Segelstein)Thanks again for the help. Charles can you address what is wrong with Aperture's print routine versus Photoshop? Since I do not have PS and would prefer not to spend $650 just to print, I was hoping you could expand upon the differences and fault within Aperture. Would PS Elements be sufficient?
David, I appreciate your input. Concerning the print heads, they were calibrated when I set up the printer last week. The 8x10 prints look very nice. It may just be something with needing to sharpen the image when printing to 13x19 or not having the paper profile correct. Can anyone suggest a sharpening routine for a 6Mb file when printed at 13x19?
David, I have read that prints need to be in the 250-300 dpi range for sharp results. You are saying you are getting good results from 155 dpi resolution. I think I will crop a photo and print on the glossy paper I have at 155 dpi just to see if there is a difference with the paper surfaces.
Thanks again.IMAC G5, V2, Mac OS X (10.4.8), HP B9180
I have just tried an experiment since I got home. I printed a 8.5x11 Adv. Gloosy of a picture. The file was a NEF about 5.7 Mb 30??x19??. The DPI in the print dialouge was around 280. I cropped the picture about 1/2 and the DPI turned into 157 which is to be expected. I printed this on the same size Adv. Glossy paper. I have tried with the same sharpening as for the upcropped and then sharpened a different amount. The cropped pictures are not as nice as expected.
So my question - am I doing something wrong or what is the definition of a good 13x19 print from a 6Mb file? Like in my first post I have seen a 20x24 from a 3Mb file at my local camera shop that looked much better than my 13x19 or cropped 8x10. Is Photoshop this much better or do you suppose they are using a upsizing program?IMAC G5, V2, Mac OS X (10.4.8), HP B9180
I don't know, Bobby, I'm looking at a borderless 13X19 print on my wall right now that looks pretty good. It is from a D70 shot that is 2921X1998 pixels, and the print dialogue that Aperture shows indicates a DPI of 154, although I selected "use best DPI" so it's greyed out. I printed this on an Epson R1800 on Epson Premium Glossy paper. I could try to email you a JPEG of the file that I have and you can try to print it, or you could do the reverse. (I don't know the limitations of our respective email platforms, so I don't know if a TIFF or NEF would go through). Don't know what else to say.
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Currently Being ModeratedJan 29, 2007 11:40 PM (in response to David Segelstein)I have printed only one 13x19 on my Canon, but it was from PS Elements 4. I changed the dpi to reflect an image size of 13x19 and it resulted in about 180dpi. I was a bit skeptical to "waste" the ink on that size, but it turned out to be a stunning image. The smaller prints do much better at 240-300 dpi but the larger prints are meant to be viewed at a distance and can produce excellent results at the lower dpi. Think of it as viewing a snapshot in your hand vs. a billboard (ok, extreme examples, but you get the idea?)MacPro 2.66, 250GB drive, 2GB ram, Mac OS X (10.4.8)