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2902 Views 14 Replies Latest reply: Jul 3, 2008 4:26 AM by Shaun Rosenberg
Currently Being ModeratedJul 14, 2007 7:38 AM (in response to Shaun Rosenberg)Hi Shaun!
Port forwarding in home routers is pretty limited. But you do have some options when dealing with mulitple machines.
1. (I have not tested this.) You may be able to set up a second port forward port for your second machine.
On your router you're already port forwarding 3283 to your first Mac at 3283. Try port forwarding 3284 to your second Mac at 3283. Then in ARD enter the IP address of the second machine as 192.168.0.1:3284.
2. You could invest in a home router that supports VPN. When connected via VPN your own computer would effectively be on the same network as your remote Macs and should be able to see everything.
Hope this helps!
Mac OS X (10.4.10) 1 GHz Powerbook G4
Currently Being ModeratedJul 16, 2007 4:25 AM (in response to mecklists)Thanks for the advice, I thought others may have dealt with this somehow?
Is it possible to set up VPN with the AE?
Also, off topic, When I have the port forwarding set up, I try to manually assign ip's to the clients and they can't get online, once I change back to DHCP, they are online, but the port forwarding gets corrupt due to the clien't ips getting randoml assigned. I have also tried DHCP with manual ip but the client still can't connect online...
I heard timbuktu is better for my needs, is ARD mostly just for local networks?
Thanks for the help! I know I sound like a noob, but I am not completely inept.G5DP2.5/15"2.4ghzMBP/G415"1.67/G412"1.33/G4 Quicksilver/4g40giPod/nano RED/20ACD, Mac OS X (10.4.10), I love my macs...I hate sofware bugs...
Currently Being ModeratedJul 16, 2007 4:45 AM (in response to Shaun Rosenberg)Actually, doing some research, I don't think I want to go the VPN route...
I also noticed, ARD uses 5900,3283,and 22, so the port forwarding advice just doesn't work for everything.
If I can get the manual ip's to stick I'll just have to make do with VNC on one machine...G5DP2.5/15"2.4ghzMBP/G415"1.67/G412"1.33/G4 Quicksilver/4g40giPod/nano RED/20ACD, Mac OS X (10.4.10), I love my macs...I hate sofware bugs...
Currently Being ModeratedJul 17, 2007 5:31 AM (in response to Shaun Rosenberg)I just found a great solution, I have yet to try it yet, but it sounds great.
Its called hamachi x, it is a vpn app for osx...I'll report back if it works out...G5DP2.5/15"2.4ghzMBP/G415"1.67/G412"1.33/G4 Quicksilver/4g40giPod/nano RED/20ACD, Mac OS X (10.4.10), I love my macs...I hate sofware bugs...
Currently Being ModeratedJul 22, 2007 5:45 AM (in response to Shaun Rosenberg)still wondering what others are doing for more then one external client behind an ae with NAT?
Currently Being ModeratedJul 31, 2007 5:46 AM (in response to Shaun Rosenberg)Using HamachiX the external computer shows up as if its on my lan...Have yet to try it with 2 at once.
I've used Hamachi for PCs and it's great!!
I'd love to put in on our Macs at work but it requires a command-line install.
(I know next to nothing about unix C-L)
I downloaded the program and hamachix for the GUI, but HOW DO I INSTALL IT???
Any help of suggestions GREATLY appreciated!
Message was edited by: MacShanny
Message was edited by: MacShannyeMac (G4 1.25 GHz) & mac Mini 1.42Ghz, iMacs, ...Running with the Panthers and Tigers...
Since this issue is not related to Apple Remote Desktop, the discussion should probably be moved to another forum. There's one specifically for Hamatchi questions here.
Good luck.Mac Pro 2.66Ghz 2GB, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
I've been through that forum, but it hasn't been very helpful for users not familiar with unix commands.Me Likey da eMac (G4 1.25 GHz) & mac Mini 1.42Ghz, ...Running with the Panthers and Tigers...
actuall the post about hamachi was a sidebar to the original post, which has still not been answered, and I feel is completely appropriate to this forum.
The program actually doesn't solve my problem as it runs on tiger only and the other client is on panther.
So this leaves me back at the beginning of this post...
Is anyone else admining more then one client behind an external ae and how...
Message was edited by: Shaun Rosenberg
OK, getting back to the original topic and away from the Hamatchi issue:
The nature of TCP/IP allows a port to only be forwarded to a single IP address. That's not a function of the router, that's inherent in the design of the protocol. If your workstations get their addresses from an NAT device rather than being "real", the ports need to be forwarded in the router to the workstation's internal IP address. ARD uses port 3283 for the reporting and updating function, so if your Macs are getting their IP addresses through NAT, since you can only forward a port to a single workstation, you can only get reports, push package/files to etc. for a single workstation.
ARD uses the VNC protocol for observation and control, though, and there are a range of IP addresses for that protocol, starting with 5900. ARD uses 5900 by default, so that port would be forwarded to the first workstation. You would, I believe, need to install VNC servers on the systems (since the ARD client cannot listen on any port other than 5900 while VNC servers can be set for other ports such as 5901, 5902, etc. You would then forward 5901 to the second workstation (and on to 5902, 5903, etc.). You can then use the following information:
Remote Desktop 2: How to specify a port number for a VNC client
The only other options are: 1) to run the ARD administrator on a workstation on the network, and then take control of that system from outside, either via VNC or another copy of ARD, or 2) set up a virtual private network (VPN) so that when you connect from outside, your admin system is officially part of the local network.
Hope this helps.
Message was edited by: Dave SawyerMac Pro 2.66Ghz 2GB, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
Yes, I have been just using VNC for the comps at different ports, and the hamachi thing has allowed me to set up a pseudo VPN, so it is functioning ok.
Thanks. I was just curious what others are up to. I find it hard to believe no one else has been in this situation before, although I'm assumming they are just vncing or vpning... I just thought maybe there was a better solution.
Thanks for the advice.