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Currently Being ModeratedOct 4, 2007 2:09 PM (in response to Advill100)Stanford and Berkeley are beta-testing that look-and-feel. It is not yet exposed to the rest of us.MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), I lied. I'm running Leopard
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2007 8:26 AM (in response to richwolf)aaaah, welp we like the look and feel Release the beast!!
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2007 10:31 AM (in response to Advill100)I don't fully understand the question about tabs and different pages. Here's what I can clarify:
The UC Berkeley site uses the Welcome page throughout and this template is part of all iTunes U sites. There's nothing special or beta about what they are doing.
Stanford's public site is based on a template called Public Feature Page. This new feature was announced in the the iTunes U Update on August 29, 2007 that all site administrators were emailed. This template is designed specifically for public sites and cannot be used where the need for private, protected access is required.
Here's the portion of the email from August 29th that refers to Public Feature Page:
*Public Feature Page*
To separate public and private content within your current iTunes U site you define access levels for each user credential, thereby controlling user permissions and actions to iTunes U pages within your site. Using this strategy within your current iTunes U site, you as the site administrator manage both the public and private content. However, based on customer feedback, most institutions have different groups on campus that manage pubic content versus private content. In addition, depending on whether you use your iTunes U site primarily for academic or public purposes, can determine how your site is organized and how content is presented:
• For academic purposes, the content is presented dynamically to the user based on the permissions you define, and the site tends to have a flat architecture
• For public purposes, specific content is featured and linked, and the site tends to have a deeper architecture
To address these differences, iTunes U introduces the Public Feature page as a way to separate your iTunes U site into two distinct areas (see note below) that can be managed by two different groups on campus. At this time, separating your site into two areas is a manual process by Apple. In order to separate your site, you must submit an email request to iTunes-U-Request@apple.com. Before submitting a request, consider the following:
• A new public area of your site appears as a new empty site. You must establish a new transfer script, build out the structure, and upload content. This may require re-uploading content from the other area of your site. At a future date, the iTunes U Team hopes to provide migration tools.
• A new public area of your site uses a new iTunes U page template, Public Feature, created for sites focused on open, public content. The Public Feature page template is designed to feature content by creating links to different pages and tracks within an iTunes U site. The page template also allows you to display a Top Downloads section that is automatically populated based on download activity. The Public Feature page template is not available within your current site area, and does not work with access-controlled sites.
• A new public area of your site and the Public Feature page are designed to facilitate sites with dozens or hundreds of Course pages and thousands of tracks. Request a new public area for your site only if you have a large quantity of public content that would benefit from a deeper architecture.
Note: The two areas share the 500 GB space allotment for your iTunes U site. The July 20, 2007 update to iTunes U added the ability to host content locally allowing the content to remain inside your campus network. This technique can offer multiple forms of distribution from a single source, allow the content to appear in iTunes U and other podcast aggregation destinations without multiple efforts, and allow you to provide much more content than if it were all uploaded to Apple's servers (iTunes U sites have a 500 GB storage capacity).Mac OS X (10.4.10)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 5, 2007 3:32 PM (in response to Duncan Bernhardt)I stand (happily) corrected.MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), I lied. I'm running Leopard
Currently Being ModeratedOct 8, 2007 12:33 PM (in response to Duncan Bernhardt)Hello Duncan:
Thanks for the information, but I disagree that there isn't a need for more levels than three for academic purposes. For example, we have a potential of 6000-7000 classes that could be added into iTunes U. So, we want to mimic our course catalog setup...
Welcome -> Courses -> Subject -> Catalog Number -> Section Number
Else we have to create 6000-7000 courses in the courses section? First, I heard there was a issue with the UI displaying anymore than 300+ logged in as the site admin, second, from the site admin perspective viewing 300 let along up to 7000 courses.
We are planning for many of these courses using our own institutional server and populating via an RSS 2.0 feed, but the number of courses is still an issue with the templates academic (restricted) number of levels.Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 10, 2007 7:11 AM (in response to Duncan Bernhardt)I have a related question -- WHY is this only available for a public page? We could certainly make use of it for our site, which will be a combination of public and private content.Mac OS X (10.4.4)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 10, 2007 9:16 AM (in response to blepharisma)I agree. While much of the content on the academic side of iTunes U may directly relate to classes, and thus be restricted, there is a whole other type of content that's accessible to the college community. These would include lecture series, academic presentations, etc. that can be made available to the Lafayette community, but not to the public at large (we've already had one lecture series this semester with exactly that restriction).
From our perspective, the ability to highlight certain content through staff picks and display popular downloads as important on the academic side of things as it is on the public side.MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
Currently Being ModeratedOct 18, 2007 7:48 AM (in response to Ken Newquist)Agreed. There is a great deal of content that, for various reasons, people are not quick to make available to the general public but would willingly make available to the college community. The current structure of the private side serves to inhibit this.
Currently Being ModeratedNov 5, 2007 11:40 AM (in response to Duncan Bernhardt)I'd like to request the public/private split - Who do I contact?
Currently Being ModeratedNov 27, 2007 3:10 AM (in response to Advill100)Greetings,
We just received our new public page credentials. Thank you!
I have a question about changing the look and feel of the site. It appears that one can only choose a single set of colors for the background, borders, text, etc. When you look at Stanford's public site, they have an entirely different look and feel for every section. Am I missing something, or can we not have different colors for different pages?
Jim DyeMacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2007 1:55 PM (in response to James Dye)My university is hounding me for a "public" area, in spite of the fact that many of our faculty are slow to get on the podcasting bandwagon. I do not remember receiving an e-mail outlining these changes/enhancements, but with all the spam clogging e-mail servers these days, it could have come through and then just "disappeared" without my ever knowing.
I will happily e-mail requesting our account be "split", but I do have a couple of questions beforehand:
1) what does creating a new transfer script entail?
2) how do I go about enabling the local storage feature implemented in the July 20, 2007 update to iTunes U?
North Carolina Central University
Durham NCMac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.9), OS X Server
Currently Being ModeratedDec 3, 2007 6:15 PM (in response to raydragon)Ray,
Are you at UNC Cause this week, in Asheville? If so, see if you can find me and we can chat.
Duke UniversityWindows XP
Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2007 9:48 AM (in response to Ben Rogers)Ben,
Unfortunately, I was not at Cause last week. I would, however, like to discuss iTunesU with you, especially since my Dean said "why can't ours look like Duke's?"
i can be reached at rdragon [at] nccu [dot] eduMac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.9), OS X Server
Currently Being ModeratedApr 16, 2008 1:11 PM (in response to Advill100)Does anybody know how to go about requesting the Public/Private Split?