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jobetim Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
Apologies if this is already covered. When I get to the screen inviting me to choose a drive to install OSX, I get the following message, with a yellow exclamation mark: "You cannot install OSX on this volume without changing your installation settings". Clicking on 'options', I am told "The destination disk must be erased for installation". This is the volume that already has Tiger 10.4.10, and all my files on. It will allow me to install it in a separate hard drive installed in my Mac Pro (and onto my MacBook Pro) - but I want it on my main drive - which is, incidentally, OS extended journaled.

Any ideas? Many thanks!

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 2x3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
  • 1. Re: Can't start installation
    SteveLamb0 Level 5 Level 5 (4,110 points)
    Hi

    Same thing here, so you're not alone. Suggest you clone current system to another drive then do the erase & install. You could use Migration Assistant to pull stuff across afterwards.

    Steve
  • 2. Re: Can't start installation
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,115 points)
    Things to try, assuming you have a bootable backup/clone. First, boot the machine with the Tiger install disk, launch Disk Utility, and repair the disk and permissions. Run the Apple Hardware Test program that came with the machine, extended tests. If it passes, run Rember on the RAM. Reinstall the latest COMBO update, restart, and repair permissions. If everything checks out, update the backup/clone, then give the Leopard installer another go.

    If you get the same message, file a bug report via Apple's Bugreporter system. Join the Apple Developer Connection (ADC)—it's free and available for all Mac users and gets you a look at some development software. Since you already have an Apple username/ID, use that. Once a member, go to Apple BugReporter and file your bug report.
  • 3. Re: Can't start installation
    SteveLamb0 Level 5 Level 5 (4,110 points)
    Had backed up my Applications folder, went along with erase & now running Leopard as you'll see from profile (just did reinstall & used Time Machine to restore some apps & settings, makes things so easy).

    Steve
  • 4. Re: Can't start installation
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,115 points)
    Seems you missed telling us a couple of things you did. First you noted it couldn't install, so how did you install it? How did you use TM if you couldn't install it? Backed up which Applications folder? Tiger or Leopard? I'm a bit confused.
  • 5. Re: Can't start installation
    Chris Welbon Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
    Same problem here (Core Duo MacBook Pro, currently running 10.4.10).

    Both 10.5 and 10.4 versions of Disk Utility fail to repair the disk, saying "the underlying task reported failure on exit."

    I realize that the easy way to work around the problem is to follow the 10.5 installer's suggestion to backup and reformat the volume. But does anyone have any further info about why this is happening?
  • 6. Re: Can't start installation
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,115 points)
    If neither DU can repair the volume, then you'll need something like DiskWarrior. As to why, I suspect disk directory corruption.
  • 7. Re: Can't start installation
    SteveLamb0 Level 5 Level 5 (4,110 points)
    Right

    Copied 10.4.10 Applications folder from HD to external HD.
    Ran Leopard Installer
    When got to Install summary, Macintosh HD had a yellow triangle with ! next to it. Message said could not install on this computer, click Options.
    Did so, gave me option to select Mac OS X Extended (Journaled) (HD already this).
    Clicked Erase to start installation, successfully installed Leopard & allowed TM to backup Leopard to external HD.

    That better?
  • 8. Re: Can't start installation
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,115 points)
    Yes. It shows how you circumvented the yellow caution (apparently, you had turned off journaling and that's what caused it to balk) and also cleared up that after successfully intalling you could run TM. However, IIRC, selecting the external HD holding your 10.4.10 applications for TM should have caused it to be erased. AFAICT, you didn't gain anything copying it, unless you used a different HD/volume.
  • 9. Re: Can't start installation
    Chris Welbon Level 1 Level 1 (70 points)
    Yep. In retrospect, that's obvious, but in this case the installer's message is pretty stark, and doesn't really hint at what's going on. So I got to thinking that there was something in the configuration that was out of whack, rather than a problem with the disk preventing the installation.

    DiskWarrior fixed everything, of course.
  • 10. Re: Can't start installation
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,115 points)
    Then, you had a directory problem and the installer was balking. Thanks for the feedback.
  • 11. Re: Can't start installation _ Hope Apple is reading this
    zimer1 Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    Sure hope Apple is reading this forum. Am a PC convert but am disappointed number of issues that have popped with this new OS.

    Though many have had better luck, sure hoped that Apple did some install test on various systems. Have a Macbkpro 2.16, 2g,160hd, am really concerned how will I manage this update??

    Apple, can you please post a instruction set on how to install without having any issues?? Infact I was at the Apple dealer hoping to buy but my intuition said NO, wait this one out till everybody has had time to test.

    Can anybody post or place a link to these install issues?? Much appreciated.

    zimer
  • 12. Re: Can't start installation
    SteveLamb0 Level 5 Level 5 (4,110 points)
    10.4.10 Disk Utility showed my HD was journaled before I put in Leopard disk & ran Installer, how did I turn it off (didn't knowingly attempt to, would using Leopard's DU to Repair Disk have done it?)? Sorry I'm not being clear, Leopard on internal HD. Only using external HD for Time Machine backups, not clone or installation of Leopard, which is why 10.4.10 Applications folder was not erased (it's on external).

    In another twist, I'm able to see files that should be invisible (not really bothering me, just weird).

    Steve
  • 13. Re: Can't start installation
    baltwo Level 9 Level 9 (60,115 points)
    *Only using external HD for Time Machine backups, not clone or installation of Leopard, which is why 10.4.10 Applications folder was not erased (it's on external).*

    That's what's confusing. I thought that any disk used for TM was erased when it does the first backup. If that's not the case, then I'm unconfused. Sorry, but I didn't test TM during the beta period because I didn't want to devote a FWHD to the job for its hourly incrementals. I don't need that much redundancy and once or twice weekly full clones with CCC are easier to manage. But, then again, I'm just a single-user working at home and religiously back stuff up.

    *In another twist, I'm able to see files that should be invisible (not really bothering me, just weird).*

    That's worthy of a bug report via Apple's BugReporter system. Search this forum for setfile and see some earlier traffic on the problem.
  • 14. Re: Can't start installation
    dawnrazor Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    SteveLamb0 wrote:
    Right

    Copied 10.4.10 Applications folder from HD to external HD.
    Ran Leopard Installer
    When got to Install summary, Macintosh HD had a yellow triangle with ! next to it. Message said could not install on this computer, click Options.
    Did so, gave me option to select Mac OS X Extended (Journaled) (HD already this).
    Clicked Erase to start installation, successfully installed Leopard & allowed TM to backup Leopard to external HD.

    That better?


    how did you get all you 3rd party software, prefs, keychains, bookmarks and emails into leopard?
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