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  • 30. Re: X11 in Leopard
    dnidever Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I use X11 and xterms a lot and had no problems on Tiger. I just
    installed Leopard and now there are several problems. The one
    that's causing me the most grief is the fast that I can't do copy/paste
    or select/paste. Under Tiger I used to be able to select some text
    in one xterm window and then paste it into another xterm window
    with alt-click. This doesn't work now. I have "emulate three button
    mouse" selected so I don't think that's the problem. I feel like there's
    some kind of option I need to set. I've been browsing discussion pages,
    but haven't found a solution. Anybody know how to fix this.
  • 31. Re: X11 in Leopard
    m1k83l Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    I was able to get Inkscape working in Leopard by editing the "/Applications/Inkscape.app/Contents/Resources/script" file. I commented out all the lines except those listed below. I hope this helps.

    CWD="`dirname \"$0\"`"
    test -f ~/.inkscape/.fccache-new || exit 12
    BASE="`echo "$0" | sed -e 's/\/Contents\/Resources\/script/\//'`"
    cd "$BASE"
    exec "$CWD/bin/inkscape" "$@"
  • 32. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Diana1138 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    That doesn't help me though since I need to use Xterm to log onto my work's computer. I don't have an application to run.
  • 33. IDL and X11 in Leopard
    sdbale Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Is anyone getting 'bus error's? I'm running IDL (6.3) with X11 on
    Leopard. I can make monochrome line plots, but IDL dies in a
    bus error if I try to make color density graphics.
  • 34. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Mac-oholic Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    m1k83l wrote:
    I was able to get Inkscape working in Leopard by editing the "/Applications/Inkscape.app/Contents/Resources/script" file. I commented out all the lines except those listed below. I hope this helps.

    CWD="`dirname \"$0\"`"
    test -f ~/.inkscape/.fccache-new || exit 12
    BASE="`echo "$0" | sed -e 's/\/Contents\/Resources\/script/\//'`"
    cd "$BASE"
    exec "$CWD/bin/inkscape" "$@"



    Hey m1k83l,

    Thanks for the recommendation. But the Inkscape group released a newer Mac version on Friday.

    It works BUT THE TEXT IN THE MENUS AND TOOL BARS ARE NOT RECOGNIZED! They just show up as blank boxes. There is a temporary workaround. If I open the app from the .dmg it came in it will open correctly. I find this a little annoying because I cannot edit the app to add my custom palettes (the Contents folder and everything inside it is read only and I can't fix it for some reason).

    I don't know if this is an X11 problem or a problem on the inkscape side. If anyone has any recommendations I would greatly appreciate it.

    -Jonathan
  • 35. Re: X11 in Leopard
    frankpod Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Hy M Byer,
    I installed Leopard on Oct 26.
    I pllayed with X11 specially with rdesktop from MacPorts.
    It was not really fast. I thought X11 from Apple was outdated.
    I searched for a newer X11. found XFree but then I found X.Org.
    I installed X.org X11R7.2 (20070718).pkg.zip from http://people.freedesktop.org/~bbyer/.
    Now when I try to launch anything (Xterm, rdesktop, etc.) I get:
    X connection to /tmp/launch-MtQPdL/:0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
    The X11 window appears and disappear quickly.

    Have I done something wrong ?
    How could I revert to the X11 from Leopard DVD ?

    The only tweak I did was the Xterm -ls or something like that so that X11 apps launch directly when launched from the terminal (without having to launch X11.app.

    Thanks for your help.
  • 36. Re: X11 in Leopard
    bbyer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    frankpod wrote:
    Hy M Byer,
    I installed Leopard on Oct 26.
    I pllayed with X11 specially with rdesktop from MacPorts.
    It was not really fast. I thought X11 from Apple was outdated.
    I searched for a newer X11. found XFree but then I found X.Org.
    I installed X.org X11R7.2 (20070718).pkg.zip from http://people.freedesktop.org/~bbyer/.
    Now when I try to launch anything (Xterm, rdesktop, etc.) I get:
    X connection to /tmp/launch-MtQPdL/:0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
    The X11 window appears and disappear quickly.

    Have I done something wrong ?
    How could I revert to the X11 from Leopard DVD ?


    I'm a bit confused as to why you did this. That file you installed was an experimental build of the X.org server from Leopard for Tiger users -- among other things, it's lacking launchd support, as that requires features not present in Tiger.

    Try deleting /Applications/Utilities/X11.app, all of /usr/X11, and reinstall X11 using the Optional Packages installer off of your Leopard DVD.
  • 37. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Jacques Foucry Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
    I reply to myself, and may be it could help somebody.

    I reinstall X11 form the original leopard image. All the package X11User.pkg (hidden in /Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD/System/Installation/Packages), X11Documentation.pkg and X11SDK.pkg from /Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD/Optional Installs/Xcode Tools/Packages.

    After a reboot (I don't know why) the tab key work for me.

    Hope it could help.

    Jacques
  • 38. Re: IDL and X11 in Leopard
    Vorticity Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Same problem - not sure if it's related to Leopard's "don't use setenv DISPLAY" restriction or not. I could do line plots, but contour plots or anything in color would crash to CLI.

    I poked around a bit, but never found a pleasing solution, so I reverted to Tiger. We'll hold off updating the machines in our group until Apple fixes X11 in Leopard.
  • 39. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Sharp-man Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)
    I'll second that. This is something I use everyday. I telecommute and use X11 to connect to our UNIX servers and remote display applications. I also do a LOT of copying and pasting, which now no longer works in Leopard's new X11. I've also turned on "Emulate 3 Button Mouse", but it makes no difference. It's like Paste-ing is an unsupported operation now (it's always greyed-out in the menu). Copying will indeed copy the text to the pasteboard; however, there is no way to paste anymore. The normal UNIX method of pasting (i.e., clicking the middle mouse button or Option+click on the Mac) does not work.
  • 40. Re: X11 in Leopard
    sajjad Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Hi, will the cursor-fix available here fixes the cursor problem in Leopard?
    http://people.freedesktop.org/~bbyer/x11app/
  • 41. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Michael Thorn Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    I just tried the newest version of GIMP and it starts up, (btw very fast), but it runs extremely slow. That is the pointer follows my input very slowly. Also if I try to use the paintbrush or several other tools (not all of them) GIMP just crashes without any warning or result.
  • 42. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Michael Thorn Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    This worked perfectly for me, even the menu items. I didn't even bother trying to use the new version.
  • 43. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Michael Thorn Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    For those curious, I have made it so no X11 icons show up in the dock when you start a program that needs X11. Normally when you start GIMP you will see two icons appear in the dock. This isn't normal, but I think they know about it. It is normal for two X11 processes to begin. I don't know why, but it was this way in Tiger as well. Of course you would have to either run 'top' or look in your activity monitor to see them in 10.4.

    The application in /Applications/Utilities/X11.app, should really be called xterm, and you should think of it as such, as X11 no longer lives here. I don't know why they kept the name the same, but changed the function, and that is just confusing. I would prefer the development team change the name to xterm so I don't get confused by changing the plist file for xterm rather than x11. Anyway, stepping off my soapbox.

    Now to get rid of those pesky, imho, X11 icons in the dock.
    1) Make sure you have removed any DISPLAY settings from your .bashrc, .profile, or whatever. This is all taken care of automatically. Not perfectly yet, but having two locations where this is set will surely break your apps.

    2) You need to modify the contents of the 'real' X11.app. Go to /usr/X11/X11.app/Contents/ make the following change to Info.plist file (note you will need to use sudo vi, or sudo emacs, or sudo nano, or whatever as this file is owned by root). Add the following lines between <dict> and </dict>:

    <key>LSUIElement</key>
    <true/>
    <key>NSUIElement</key>
    <string>1</string>

    3) Now cd to /usr/X11/ and touch X11.app with this command:

    touch X11.app


    That should be it. Now when you start up Inkscape, gimp, xeyes, or whatever, you will not get the x11 icon in the dock. Two instances will show up in your activity monitor, but I am pretty sure that is normal. This will not fix the fact that GIMP still crashes and works very slow.

    That is all. I hope you all like.
    -mike

    Message was edited by: Michael

    Message was edited by: Michael
  • 44. Re: X11 in Leopard
    Michael Thorn Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    m1k83l wrote:
    I was able to get Inkscape working in Leopard by editing the "/Applications/Inkscape.app/Contents/Resources/script" file. I commented out all the lines except those listed below. I hope this helps.

    CWD="`dirname \"$0\"`"
    test -f ~/.inkscape/.fccache-new || exit 12
    BASE="`echo "$0" | sed -e 's/\/Contents\/Resources\/script/\//'`"
    cd "$BASE"
    exec "$CWD/bin/inkscape" "$@"


    Likewise with GIMP, even the new one. I was able to get it to work by modifying the similar file in GIMP's hierarchy. I modified it in the same way, but I also left another line that set a temp directory.

    TMP=/tmp/$UID/TemporaryItems

    Still the new gimp works terribly slow, and crashes often, but I am not sure that is apple's fault as I had an older version on my mac before. I am going to try the old version again, and modify the script file the same way.

    -mike
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