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No leopard compatible server admin tools for tiger server?

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No leopard compatible server admin tools for tiger server? The new version of server admin tools tells me that my 10.4.10 server is too old to administer and the old version of server admin tools are not compatible with leopard..????
  • John Slaughter Level 1 Level 1 (140 points)
    I filed this as a bug when testing it months ago. Do they at least co-exist with each other? Can you keep both sets of Admin Tools?
    Mac Pro 2.66 GHz, 10GB RAM, 2TB HD, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • John Slaughter Level 1 Level 1 (140 points)
    Ha, I asked because I did the exact same thing!

    I'll reinstall them on Monday...
    Mac Pro 2.66 GHz, 10GB RAM, 2TB HD, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • davidh Level 4 Level 4 (1,890 points)

    I've not had a chance to try this out, don't have 10.5 server yet to work with.
  • David White17 Calculating status...
    There's obviously something we don't know about going on here !
    To many !, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
  • Joseph Morano Calculating status...
    Since the 10.4 admin tool do not install to a leopard system, I copied the admin apps from my 10.4 server to a jump drive and then copied to my leopard install and the applications work fine.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • miniblog Level 1 Level 1 (145 points)
    Yeap! I am living on the edge here. I installed Server Admin Tools 10.5 right away on my G5. Now, we need Mac OS X 10.4.11 update on the Xserve.
    PowerMac G4 (FW800), PowerMac G5 (2Ghz), iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • Bertrand Stern1 Calculating status...
    10.5 and 10.4 servers are totally differents beasts...

    Hence i would only use 10.5 servers on non production systems as of this time.
    If you want to manage a 10.4 system from 10.5 server i would transfer the 10.4 tools.
    as of today 10.5 still has a "few" problems to live with ... installation being one of them.

    The only way i could setup 10.5 to work properly as of this day was to go from a workgroup installation to an advanced setup to setup DNS "properly" , hence calendars , wikis , blogs are all working fine as of this moment where as the advanced server setup botches everything and you end up managing 404 errors since creations are not handled too well ...

    I guess on of the ideal situations would be to install in workgroup setup and keep DNS FAR away and still running in 10.4 using Webmin's handy . I know , this is not a good solution but at least it works properly.
    MacPro Octo Core 2.66Ghz 16GB Ram, Mac OS X (10.5), MacOs X server 10.5
  • rikaru Calculating status...
    Yep - this document is unfortunately totally right. Meaning - I was a little hotheaded to put Leopard on my MacBook.

    Luckily, I can ARD into a desktop in my office running Tiger (with the 10.4 Server Admin tools). Unfortunately, I think it'll be a year before I've completely upgraded my Tiger Servers to Leopard. I have a hard time justifying the cost of upgrading licenses at full price when nothing's broken - two of my servers are doing exactly what I want them to under Tiger and have no need for the upgrade, other than ease of administration.
    MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5), also administers Tiger and Leopard Servers (on 2007 Xserves), a few Mac Pros, and a bunch of MacBook
  • OverDrive Calculating status...
    I am in the same boat as rikaru. I upgraded the laptop I use to Admin my servers to 10.5 the day it came out. The new Workgroup Manager seems to connect to my 10.4 servers fine. It no longer has the Sharing tab. The new Server Admin however won’t connect to any of my servers. They are all 10.4.10.

    I did copy the 10.4 server tools from one of my servers and ran them on my 10.5 laptop. I can run the old Workgroup Manager and it connects to my 10.4 servers but the sharing tab is grayed out. Seems like they want me to manage shares in Sever Admin 10.5 but since I don’t have any 10.5 servers I can't verify.

    I don’t want to log in to servers all the time to run tools. It is also nice to have Server Admin open with all my servers in it.

    Well I hope an update is coming soon to the tools or for 10.4.10 server. Seem easier to update the 10.5 server tools to work on 10.4 servers than to update the servers to use the new tools. But what do I know.
    All, Mac OS X (10.4.10)
  • Richard MacLemale Calculating status...
    Yes - to clarify, the linked apple article is part right and part wrong. You CAN run 10.4 server admin on your 10.5 computer. You can't run 10.5 server admin on your 10.4 computer. In a mixed environment of 10.4 and 10.5 servers, you need a 10.5 client with both 10.4 server admin and 10.5 server admin in it.
    MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5)
  • Michael Gmuer Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    How little was Apple was thinking ? Imagine guys, there are customers out there which do have more than ONE Xserve (actually many more)... AND they do NOT UPGRADE ALL of them at the same time... for various reasons. Now if you are overwriting the old Tiger Release Admin Tools with the new Leopard ones BUT the new ones are not backward compatible to the EXISTING Servers... then you do create a completely unnessessary PROBLEM for all the support guys which have the New ones on their Leopard MacBookPro's but cant service the old Servers any longer. Please think a second about your installed base - before you do something stupid as this ! Thank You.
    SERVERS, Mac OS X (10.5.1)


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