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Currently Being ModeratedDec 13, 2007 9:50 AM (in response to MacGuyver)A weird note...
It only happens to un-edited pictures taken with my Canon SD200 that are taken horizontally but not picture taken vertically.
Anyone else having similar issues?Black SR MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 8G iPhone iPod Mini iPod Shuffle
Currently Being ModeratedDec 13, 2007 12:07 PM (in response to MacGuyver)Eric:
Try deleting the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder. See if that will help.
If not log into another account on your Mac, preferably a vanilla account, create a test library, import a couple of photos and see if the problem persists. If not your primary account is the culprit. It could a bad preference file other than iPhoto's. Here's how to determine if that's the case:
Trouble Shooting Preferences
Go to HD/Users/Your_name/Library. Move the Preferences folder (in its entirety) to the Desktop and make a second copy of it so you have Copy A and B. Now try the the process again and determine if problem is fixed.
If the problem IS fixed, then go to the new Prefs folder that the OS will have created and open it up.
Open Copy B on the Desktop and select all of the items inside. Drag them into the open new library folder. When the Copy window comes up check the Apply to All check box and then click on the Don't Replace button as seen here. That will keep the new files created and bring back all of the others.
If the problem is NOT fixed, trash the new Prefs folder and move the intact Copy A folder back to the Library folder .
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.MBP 2.16Ghz; G5 2 Core 2GHz, 2G RAM, G4 Dual 1Ghz, 1.5G RAM; 750/250/200 GB HDs;, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 22" LCD, Canon: SD700IS/i850/8600F, Epson R200; 4G Nano, 30G Video iPod
Currently Being ModeratedDec 14, 2007 7:43 PM (in response to Old Toad)I deleted com.apple.iPhoto.plist, no luck.
I logged into another account on my Mac and still had the same problem.
Another thing I have noticed... When I go to import photos into iPhoto 08, it applies the profile even in the import window. However, if I click on Photos or Events and then click back to the Canon SD200 import window, for a split second you can see the thumbnails without the over-saturated harshness. iPhoto refuses to let me do anything with applying Camera RGB for everything. I even tried to set a specific colorsync profile with image capture, and also with applescript, after which, the thumbnail in iPhoto looks "normal," but it still applies the profile when I enlarge it.
Another anomaly I noticed... when I open photos taken horizontally inside the iphoto window (not full screen) the profile is applied. When I open photos taken vertically in the iPhoto window the profile is not applied. However, both horizontal and vertical pictures have the profile applied when in full screen. This just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
Heres an example... the one on the left is how the photo looks when it is enlarged in iPhoto. The one on the right is how the thumbnail looks and how it looks in preview, when it is not embedded with Camera RGB Profile. The photo on the left is Camera RGB, the photo on the right has no profile
Thanks for all your help Toad!Black SR MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 8G iPhone iPod Mini iPod Shuffle
Currently Being ModeratedDec 15, 2007 10:43 AM (in response to MacGuyver)Does the profile get embedded even if you do not have the option selected to embed a color profile in iPhoto's advanced preferences?
Go into your User/Library/ColorSynce folder and move the Camera RGB.icc file to the Desktop. Then try importing again. If that clears it up just put the file in long term storage somewhere. You might not want to delete it in case it is required later on for something.MBP 2.16Ghz; G5 2 Core 2GHz, 2G RAM, G4 Dual 1Ghz, 1.5G RAM; 750/250/200 GB HDs;, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 22" LCD, Canon: SD700IS/i850/8600F, Epson R200; 4G Nano, 30G Video iPod
Currently Being ModeratedDec 15, 2007 1:17 PM (in response to Old Toad)iPhoto embeds the photo whether the box is checked or not. Ive tried assigning a colorsync profile in Preview with Applescript and then importing it to iPhoto, but iPhoto still applies its own colorsync profile.
Also, the User/Library/ColorSync/Profiles folder does not contain Camera RGB Profile (it contains one profile named Color LCD Calibrated).
I had almost the same exact problem with iPhoto 06, but I removed the Camera RGB Profile from the User/Library/ColorSync/Profiles folder and that fixed it. However, with 08 it isnt there anymore, and the only place I found that profile on my system is in iPhoto's "Frameworks" folder.Black SR MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 8G iPhone iPod Mini iPod Shuffle
Currently Being ModeratedDec 15, 2007 2:21 PM (in response to MacGuyver)In running a test on photos without any profile embedded I found that iPhoto would use the profile that was assigned to the monitor. Doesn't make sense but that's what I found. You might try setting your monitor to sRGB and import a couple of photos and see what happens.MBP 2.16Ghz; G5 2 Core 2GHz, 2G RAM, G4 Dual 1Ghz, 1.5G RAM; 750/250/200 GB HDs;, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 22" LCD, Canon: SD700IS/i850/8600F, Epson R200; 4G Nano, 30G Video iPod
Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2007 7:25 PM (in response to Old Toad)Im curious as to how that will make iPhoto behave differently? I changed my display profile but it made everything look out of whack. iPhoto isnt applying the monitor profile (which is Color LCD Calibrated), its applying Camera RGB. I dont understand iPhoto's behavior at all.
Thanks for all your help though.Black SR MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 8G iPhone iPod Mini iPod Shuffle
Currently Being ModeratedDec 16, 2007 7:31 PM (in response to MacGuyver)It was just a shot in the dark. When I've imported photos without a profile the monitors profile would be embedded. If there is a profile already in there I guess it doesn't do anything.
iPhoto isn't supposed to change the profile unless there is none to begin with and you've select the option to embed a profile. That part of iPhoto is not well understood by many of us.
There is an Applescript that I've modified to embed the sRGB profile in image files. It's a lossless process. I don't know if it will help you but you can at least try it out on a couple of test files and see if it improves their display. You can download it from Toad's Cellar.
Currently Being ModeratedDec 31, 2007 3:21 AM (in response to MacGuyver)I have the same problem.
In case it is relevant:
The used camera is a pentax optio w 10 and the monitor I use is an IIama Vision Master pro 454 (flat crt screen)
Problem occurs in preview and safari as well. Not in Firefox however.Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedDec 31, 2007 4:43 AM (in response to Roderick Jansen)I don't have a solution but the fact that both Preview and Safari are colour managed and Firefox isn't offers the clue that the issue is with the colour profile of the images.
TDMacBook Pro 15 2.16gig / iMac 20" 2.16 C2D, Mac OS X (10.5), 2 gig RAM/ 2 gig RAM
Currently Being ModeratedJan 7, 2008 8:32 PM (in response to Ayd)I still have not found a solution, and it drives me absolutely nuts. Anyone else having this problem should send feedback to Apple and see if we can get some kind of fix.Black SR MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 8G iPhone iPod Mini iPod Shuffle
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2008 5:58 AM (in response to MacGuyver)Does anyone know how to send feedback to apple. (I am pretty new to everything that has to do with apple)
Any suggestions for things to try before I send feedback? (So I can send in something they can actually use)Mac mini, Mac OS X (10.5.1)