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New Argentina Standard Time having DST

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Gustavo Faerman Calculating status...
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Dec 31, 2007 1:27 AM
Since Dec 30, Argentina will move to a new time zone, appropriately named Argentina Standard Time.

Daylight Saving Time begins: Sunday, December 30th, 2007 at 00:00 AM
Daylight Saving Time ends: Sunday, March 16th, 2008 at 00:00 AM

I was trying to find a way to create a time zone but no luck so far.

How do we create a new timezone in Leopard?

Thanks in advance,
Gustavo Faerman
Buenos Aires, Argentina
MacBook Pro 17", Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,505 points)
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    Dec 31, 2007 8:53 AM (in response to Gustavo Faerman)
    Gustavo,
    Apple usually covers new time settings in updates to Mac OS X. My experience here in Mexico is that OS X carries out the time change for me automatically. Choose to have the date & time set automatically in the System Preferences/International/Date & Time pane. You choose your time zone from the drop down menu in the Time Zone pane. Or click with your mouse close to your home on the world map.

    The most recent update I can find is a bit out of date. It was from the known time changes of JAN 2007. If the action by the Argentine government is more recent Apple may not have yet responded to the change. Perhaps in JAN or FEB of 2008.

    ¡Feliz Año Nuevo!
    17" iMac Core Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 2 Gb RAM
  • bbogart Calculating status...
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    Dec 31, 2007 9:03 AM (in response to Dah•veed)
    Thanks David for trying to help. The problem Gustavo and I are having is that (I assume the same for Gustavo) our software is configured to update the clock automatically. So if we change the time now, if you are right about the Jan or Feb update its going to suck with the clock leaps ahead yet another hour because its trying to be helpful and set the clock for us.

    I'm just wondering, do others find it very frustrating that there is no apparent place on the apple website to submit a bug report. And there is no quick way to send a quick message to tech support. If anyone knows how please let us know. There are a lot of us here in Argentina that would love to have this little thing fixed.
    Mac Book Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • Dah•veed Level 7 Level 7 (29,505 points)
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    Dec 31, 2007 9:10 AM (in response to bbogart)
    Welcome to the Apple Discussions!

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    I'm sorry, I am not following what the issue is if your Macs are already showing the correct time.
    17" iMac Core Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 2 Gb RAM
  • henriq Calculating status...
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    Jan 4, 2008 10:52 AM (in response to Dah•veed)
    Hi David,
    It's amazing but the timezone in argentine is not fixed yet. (Well in fact it's amazing the ridiculous pattern argentina follows for timezones...)
    I wonder if we can use another time server?
    The clock widget does not show it correctly either...
    Regards
    Mac Mini G4, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • bbogart Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 4, 2008 2:03 PM (in response to Dah•veed)
    David,

    Not sure why you think our clocks are displaying the right time. They are still one hour behind and there is still no update. M$ at least released a registry patch to add a new timezone for Argentina separating it from the Argentina/Georgetown time zone. This can't be hard to fix.

    Since Apple isn't helping, does anyone know how to add a new time zone on the Mac?

    Maybe this article will explain it better: http://blogs.technet.com/dst2007/archive/2007/12/29/argentina-122907.aspx

    Thanks,
    Ben
    Mac Book Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • henriq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 10, 2008 12:22 PM (in response to Gustavo Faerman)
    Well this will eventually be fixed when Argentina goes back to gmt-3
    I hope we have a solution before that.
    BTW if anyone knows a hack to fix it in the meantime...
    I'm not really in argentina but I have a widget with Buenos Aires time, so changing the timezone to uruguay or san pablo is not a solution for me, having a my widget point to San Pablo is. I know there is an alternative widget somewhere but...
    Just guessing but... Couldn't this issue be causing false spam detection? (mail sent in the future...)
    Regards
    Mac Mini G4, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Pablo Bendersky Calculating status...
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    Jan 10, 2008 12:53 PM (in response to henriq)
    Hi,
    We have created an update to modify the time zone database of Mac OS X and correct the missing DST information for Argentina.
    You can check it on our company's blog, at:
    http://quadion.blogspot.com/2008/01/mac-os-x-horario-de-verano-en-argentina.html

    Enjoy and leave your comments!
    Mac OS X (10.5.1)
  • henriq Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 15, 2008 3:16 AM (in response to Pablo Bendersky)
    Hi, that's a great solution!
    but... I wonder why it's Leopard only. I'm on Tiger.. would it work?
    After learning about your solution I tried to update the databases by hand (downloading the new Olson versions)... the sources contain the rules but "zdump -v Argentina" is not reflecting the changes after the "sudo zic southamerica"... any ideas?
    Anyway, using your package would be my first option it it works on Tiger...
    Thanks!
    Mac Mini G4, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
  • Pablo Bendersky Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 15, 2008 3:23 AM (in response to henriq)
    Hi,
    OS X uses two separate databases for time zone information. One is tzdata, which is easily updatable, and the other is ICU.
    ICU creates some files based on tzdata. So far, I've been able to recreate the ICU database for the ICU version that ships on Leopard, but not for the version that ships on Tiger.
    I'm still trying, though, and post any news on the blog.
  • Pablo Bendersky Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jan 21, 2008 9:02 AM (in response to henriq)
    Hi,
    We have just posted the Tiger version of the timezone update for Argentina.
    You can get it on our blog, at http://quadion.blogspot.com

    Please feel free to leave any comments on the blog, or here.

    Hope you find it useful!

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