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2904 Views 9 Replies Latest reply: Mar 11, 2008 2:52 AM by Thierry de Villeneuve
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 1, 2008 5:00 AM (in response to mywattle)If you select the item and "cut" (Apple-X) the text or graphic is actually copied to the Clipboard and you can paste it elsewhere (provided the source is editable). On the other hand, if you select text or a graphic and press the Delete key the selected content is gone forever.G5 dual 1.8, 3GB RAM, MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 1, 2008 5:04 AM (in response to mywattle)"⌘-x" and "⌘-v" on your keyboard, just to add to Eddy's correct answer.
Edit: Snapped by drdoc
(Actually, the command key no longer has the Apple on it in some models.)
Message was edited by: macjackiMac 24" 2.16 GHz 3GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.1), iMac G4 17" 800 MHz 768MB/ iMac 333MHz 256 MB / LaCie d2s/ APC-UPS
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 1, 2008 9:21 AM (in response to mywattle)I know that of the x and v to cut and paste, it's pretty basic to any user. Nevertheless it does not work. It works with text like in Word, but does not work if I want to cut a picture and paste it in some other file for instance.MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.1)
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 1, 2008 10:22 AM (in response to mywattle)You're not alone: there are a bunch of threads about this on the forum from other puzzled Windows converts. Unlike Windows, Mac OS X doesn't permit you to cut and paste files in order to prevent data loss.
If something bad were to happen -- hard drive crash, power failure, coffee spill, meteor strike -- after the "cut" but before the file was actually pasted, it would simply be gone, and Apple's engineers believe it's too big a risk for typical users to make.
The Unix "mv" command works if you really, really want to move files without manually deleting the original.MacBook Pro, 15", 2.33GHz Intel, 2GB RAM, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 23" ACD, 500GB MyBook HDD
Currently Being ModeratedFeb 26, 2008 11:41 AM (in response to Eric Westby)That's funny because you can move files using your mouse.
Since when moving files using keyboard shortcuts is less secure than moving files with your mouse?
That's complete BS.
Plus, for safety, Leopard could just copy the files first and then delete the originals on the old directory. There's no danger in loosing files that way. And that's exactly what I have to do every time I want to move files using keyboard shortcuts.MacBook Black, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedMar 11, 2008 2:31 AM (in response to mywattle)For productivity freaks and users who work very fast with keyboards, drag and drop just doesn't cut it at all.
In windows XP, if you wanted to cut a file and paste it to say, a folder three levels up, you'd simply press:
Total time in doing this: about 2 seconds
For OS X, you'd have to make source and destination windows visible on the screen, ensuring that the destination folder is at least partly visible, drag the intended file, and drop it into the destination folder's window. Either that or you can quickly drag the file to the desktop, CMD-W, closing the source folder immediately, then drag the file to the target folder.
I say Apple should just add cut and paste functionality!Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedMar 11, 2008 2:52 AM (in response to corpski)We're debating here over something called "User Experience".
If I remember well the Windows model has been thoroughly based on the Mac model. But not "all" features could be "copied" because of patent infringements. Anyways - I don't want to be the cause of a long debate already closed years ago - the issue is that we're facing here two different "User Experiences" (acronym is UX).
Unfortunately, there is this human habit to instinctively adhere to "paradigms": For one person, moving a file from one place to another must be done via a Drag and Drop. For others, it must be done with a Cut and Paste.
Well, it's anyone's choice and can't be argued !
Changing OS is like changing living environment, it's a matter of changing paradigm. Even between major versions of an OS you have to change paradigm.
For instance. As a long time HPUX admin, I was used to HP-Vue, Then we moved to CDE and ranted about CDE. Now that I'm using a Mac as may platform to access my "other" Unix systems, I got used of "Virtual Desktop" from Codeteck. Now there is Space.
See, I've got to go through 4 different systems of Virtual Desktop management (and still no Windows!).
No, back to the Drag-n-Drop vs Ctrl-X-V. I am very fast with moving files. You know that you can drag and hold your file over a volume or folder icon you have in the left pane of your Finder's window. You'll see them spring open showing up where potentially you could drop it.
In order to be fast in my work, I keep my workspace very structured and organized. I have an icon of each of my principal locations set in the "Places" tab of the Finder's left pane (can't figure out its name). This organization helps me a lot designing my Time Machine backup strategy, too.
Because MacOSX is very well structured, it helps you organizing your account clean. But, the way to move files around is Drag and Drop
(or the 'mv' command through a shell terminal)
ThierryMacBook Pro 15" 2.6GHz 250Gb, Mac OS X (10.5.2), 14h/day in front of a Mac, and still having a life