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Seagate 320GB sluggish boot drive?

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Don T Level 1 Level 1 (15 points)
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Jan 26, 2008 9:38 AM
I saw the following in a Macworld lab test of the new 8 cores, one of which I ordered with the above drive.
"However, not all the results were promising for Apple's latest pro desktop model. The eight-core 2.8GHz system lagged in some of our tests, results we attribute to its somewhat sluggish Seagate hard drive."
http://www.macworld.com/article/131538/2008/01/macprobench.html
As I'm setting up a 1GB RAID 0 for my media files, I don't want to have a slow boot drive. Anyone with this drive have any comments? Alternate boot drives?
G5 dual 1.8, Mac OS X (10.4.6), 3GB RAM, ATI Radeon X800 XT
  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Jan 26, 2008 10:26 AM (in response to Don T)
    Apple is using WD 320 in some but a lot of people move the system to a faster drive. Anything from 10K Raptor to 1TB unit with 750GB being one favorite.

    Never been a fan of the OEM drives, or of Seagate (except their 15K Cheetah) so use it for backup/clone and make all your updates and changes on the new drive. You will still have a good boot drive.
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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Jan 26, 2008 11:14 AM (in response to Don T)
    Two thoughts on your ramblings...

    320GB emergency. Maybe just for emergency and critical files or system. An emergency boot drive that is just that and not a working clone backup or copy.

    Can also buy spare drive sleds for $25 each if needed.

    A fast boot drive not for its size but for performance. Costs the same as 10K Raptor but larger, even if you partition as 50% with 50% unused free space. Quite but darn fast.

    I like having one internal drive for TM. Or hook up a couple 500s or 750s in a dual SATA case $67 running off the 'spare' SATA ports. Maybe a small boot volume on that as well for your backup/emergency boot drive, and yes as RAID. I've been running RAIDs for years and two months of TM backups to RAIDs.
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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Jan 26, 2008 12:54 PM (in response to Don T)
    I wanted to leave the choice of drive open, as most any are going to be fine. My taste goes to 10K Raptor but now that the 750GB WD and others are out, you can check Barefeats and such for a comparison of numbers (I posted links in another thread this AM).

    The OWC price on 750GB WD SE16 is $175 if you use the link from accelerate your mac "specials".
    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com has a drive upgrade database of user experience also.
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  • AppleNewton Level 2 Level 2 (185 points)
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    Jan 31, 2008 8:32 PM (in response to The hatter)
    not sure if this is the same drive Hatter is mentioning but you can order here for 155$ or they have a discount for 150$ ending sometime this week i think.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136131&nmmc=EMC-IGNEFL012408&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012408-_-ComputerHardware-_-E0--22136131

    promo code @CHECKOUT: EMCABCEAG
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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 5:27 AM (in response to AppleNewton)
    Please, plesase, please (is that enough?) avoid these OEM drives. Yes, you save, and yes some work, but I also read like today of people having problems, won't mount, or format. They have different firmware than "regular" and retail drives. Maybe one reason OWC doesn't sell OEM units.

    Sometimes, you really do get what you pay for.
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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 5:30 AM (in response to Don T)
    If you plan to use in RAID, then RE2. If you will use it with a Port Multiplier SATA controller (Sonnet, etc) then you need the RE2 as both Sonnet and WD (and OWC) don't "endorse" (or support) the use of the SE series and there can/are issues (I've tried and have four SE16s that I played with, and talked to both).

    The 500GB RE2 is only $115 at OWC. Buy 3 or 4
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  • Yositimy Level 2 Level 2 (225 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:00 AM (in response to The hatter)
    OWC certainly sells OEM drives when they think they will work. There are problems with firmware in retail drives. The only difference is packaging and mounting hardware. Warrantees are the same for the same drive model. OWC, being a Mac house, may provide better Mac tech support than other vendors and what they sell you should work in a Mac.
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  • The hatter Level 9 Level 9 (58,535 points)
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    Feb 1, 2008 9:27 AM (in response to Yositimy)
    I'll go with StorageReview and MacGurus on the wisdom of OEM.
    Mac Pro Nvidia 8600GTS, Windows Vista, Ultimate x64-SP1(RC) Sonnet 4EP 6GB 4 x WD Raptors Cinema HD APC RS1500
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